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  Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron crassinervium inflorescence
From: brian lee <lbmkjm at yahoo.com> on 2009.08.15 at 15:56:31
Dear Steve,

Aloha.

I took a quick look at Mauro Peixoto's photos and the scan of Schott's plate from Tom.  They look very different.  Ask Mauro exactly where he took those photos and request vegetative details as well.  Notice how short the peduncles in Mauro's photos are. Also the shape of the spathe differs from Schott's plate.  

Please send me the original descriptions of Philodendron crassinervium, Philodendron alternans, and Philodendron lanceolatum, if you can...illustrations as well.  Unfortunately, I cannot examine the type specimens to understand these taxa as described unless someone scans them for us or if they are in a virtual herbarium.  I can comment in a better fashion if you can forward me any original descriptions and illustrations.  

Aloha,

Leland





--- On Sat, 8/15/09, ExoticRainforest <Steve@ExoticRainforest.com> wrote:

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve@ExoticRainforest.com>
Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron crassinervium inflorescence
To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 3:42 AM

=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A =0ATom, thanks so much for the plate.=0AI've added it to the page.
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=0Ahttp://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20crassinervium%20Philodendron%20lanceolatum.pc.html
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=0AI find it interesting Schott's plate does not appear to match your=0Afield notes on P. crassinervium or Mauro Peixoto's photo.  I=0Ahave three questions.  Is Scott's drawing applicable to P. alternans=0Aor P. lanceolatum?    And more important in my mind, could=0ASchott have described something that no longer exists in the forests of=0ABrazil?  Or, is it possible P. alternans is truly a species=0Asince it is more often epiphytic as well as pendent while P.=0Acrassinervium is primarily terrestrial?  The plants in my own=0Acollection appear to be different and Eduardo and Marcus have both said=0Aprivately they are not likely to be the same plant species.  In=0Aaddition, notes and photos I've added to the page from Leland Miyano=0Aalso at least appear to indicate they may not be the same plant.
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=0AInput from any of our experts would be most helpful.  And by the way,=0AI've copied this privately to all mentioned in this note so if any of=0Ayou choose to comment please include Aroid l when you respond.
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=0AThanks as always!
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=0Awww.ExoticRainforest.com
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Dear Steve: =0AWe could scan Schott=E2=80=99s=0Apainting of the inflorescences if you would like it.

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