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Name for Giraffe Knee
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From: "Sampson" <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.02.18 at 03:57:41(3034)
Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
I have just limited amounts of information that I have found available.
Thank you,
Lucy Sampson
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San Antonio, Texas
wiz@texas.net
Wiz is my pet parrot, not any person in the house, in case you were
wondering
about this!
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From: alistair_hay at rbgsyd.gov.au on 1999.02.18 at 17:08:24(3035)
Gonatopus boivinii is a wild guess! It is African and has a
conspicuous geniculum half way up the petiole.
Alistair Hay
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Subject: Re: Name for Giraffe Knee
Author: at mailgate
Date: 17/2/99 22:00
Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
I have just limited amounts of information that I have found available.
Thank you,
Lucy Sampson
San Antonio, Texas
wiz@texas.net
Wiz is my pet parrot, not any person in the house, in case you were
wondering
about this!
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From: Jonathan Ertelt <jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 1999.02.18 at 17:30:10(3036)
At 10:01 PM -0600 2/17/99, Sampson wrote:
>Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
Lucy - Gonatopus bovinii is the plant you are asking about.
Good Growing.
- Jonathan
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From: "Peter Boyce" <pb02kg at lion.rbgkew.org.uk> on 1999.02.18 at 17:36:17(3037)
I'd take a guess as Gonatopus boivinii
Pete
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Peter Boyce
Herbarium
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Richmond, Surrey
TW9 3AE
Tel. (+44) (0)181 332 5207
email: p.boyce@rbgkew.org.uk (work)
boyce@pothos.demon.co.uk (home)
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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (Dewey Fisk) on 1999.02.18 at 17:42:23(3038)
Could you be thinking of Gonatopus boivinii?
Dewey
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>Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
>I have just limited amounts of information that I have found available.
>Thank you,
>Lucy Sampson
>San Antonio, Texas
>wiz@texas.net
>Wiz is my pet parrot, not any person in the house, in case you were
>wondering
>about this!
Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
Your Source for Tropical Araceae
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1999.02.18 at 17:48:50(3039)
>Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
I have just limited amounts of information that I have found available.
Thank you,
Lucy Sampson
San Antonio, Texas
wiz@texas.net
Wiz is my pet parrot, not any person in the house, in case you were
wondering
about this!<
My guess, based on the name you give, would be Gonatopus boivinii, as it has
a prominent 'knee' (geniculus) about half-way up the leaf stem (petiole).
It has a divided leaf blade and is tuberous, sometimes becomming a weed in
collections.
Send us a little more information and a brief discription of your 'Giraffe
Knee', or post a photo for a more precise I.D.
Good growing.
Julius
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ju-bo@msn.com
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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (Dewey Fisk) on 1999.02.18 at 19:36:20(3042)
What a consensus!!!!! Next question is how many tons do you want?
Dewey
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>Could you be thinking of Gonatopus boivinii?
>Dewey
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>>Anyone know the name of the aroid that is known by the Giraffe Knee?
>>I have just limited amounts of information that I have found available.
>>Thank you,
>>Lucy Sampson
>>San Antonio, Texas
>>wiz@texas.net
>>Wiz is my pet parrot, not any person in the house, in case you were
>>wondering
>>about this!
>
>Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
>THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
>Your Source for Tropical Araceae
Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
Your Source for Tropical Araceae
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From: "Sampson" <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.02.20 at 01:32:47(3046)
Alistair, Jonathan, Peter, Dewey, Julius and others on the list--Thank you
for letting me know the name of this Plant! I appreciate it.
I believe you are all right! Now I am interested in getting more of these
aroids.
It looks similar to 'Konjac' with this plants leaves being more rounded and
fuller, leaves also patterned not ribbed, petiole is all green and a joint
like a flamingo or crane has on its leg mid-way. It has reached 48 inches
in height and the tallest branch is leaving the stem at 36inches and that is
the top of the stem, it has 4 main branches with leaves that on every branch
have differing shapes and the way they are grown in differs also. Another
words not at all semetric.
The history of this plant is that I have done volunteer work at the
Botanical gardens here and I got this pot from the pile of things they were
throwing out. No live green anything showing or from what I could tell
would be coming up. The side of pot says cabbage flower on it and the
Bonsai store tag too. I took it home and watered it, and in a few weeks a
very large and interesting shoot emerged, I NEVER say anything like it
before!! My husband and I were so excited and I poured through my books to
see what it could be. Not until I found the Aroid Society pages did I even
have an idea what this was. (Note here: if I took it back to the gardens
after rescuing it from the trash they would most likely reclaim it with out
telling me even what it was and I would have no fun with it. They didn't
let us have any extras etc. except from the trash bin. Sigh...) That was
last April or May and it is still going strong. It didn't bloom and I don't
even know if it is supposed to.
I love working with the plants but am now really getting excited to buy some
from you all who have them available. This last year we have had an
exciting time going on at our church as we have just moved into a new one
and I will be placing many of these interesting ones on display there so
people can learn about them and appreciate them. Some of you may have
heard about our minister Max Lucado. I really like the children to be
involved in learning about plants and their environments, so besides at
church I also volunteer teaching horticulture at the local grade school.
Lucy Sampson
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wiz@texas.net
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From: "Peter Boyce" <Boyce at pothos.demon.co.uk> on 1999.02.20 at 17:25:19(3047)
Lucy
Interested to hear that you have the all green form of G. boivinii. There is
a spectacular grey and three shades of green clone (the same as the plant
used to describe this species) in cultivation that is worth looking out. The
Kew plant of this species (which we got from Josef Bogner in Munich, Germany
many years ago) is the green form.
Pete
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Peter C. Boyce
'Bellagyna'
Willow Wren Wharf
Hayes Road, Southall
Middlesex UB2 5HB
U.K.
Tel.: +44 (0) 181 573 1213 (home)
+44 (0) 181 332 5207 (work)
Fax: +44 (0) 181 332 5278
email: boyce@pothos.demon.co.uk (home)
p.boyce@rbgkew.org.uk
-----Original Message-----
To: boyce@pothos.demon.co.uk
Date: 20 February 1999 01:19
Subject: Re: Name for Giraffe Knee
>Alistair, Jonathan, Peter, Dewey, Julius and others on the list--Thank you
>for letting me know the name of this Plant! I appreciate it.
>
>I believe you are all right! Now I am interested in getting more of these
>aroids.
>It looks similar to 'Konjac' with this plants leaves being more rounded and
>fuller, leaves also patterned not ribbed, petiole is all green and a joint
>like a flamingo or crane has on its leg mid-way. It has reached 48 inches
>in height and the tallest branch is leaving the stem at 36inches and that
is
>the top of the stem, it has 4 main branches with leaves that on every
branch
>have differing shapes and the way they are grown in differs also. Another
>words not at all semetric.
>
>The history of this plant is that I have done volunteer work at the
>Botanical gardens here and I got this pot from the pile of things they were
>throwing out. No live green anything showing or from what I could tell
>would be coming up. The side of pot says cabbage flower on it and the
>Bonsai store tag too. I took it home and watered it, and in a few weeks a
>very large and interesting shoot emerged, I NEVER say anything like it
>before!! My husband and I were so excited and I poured through my books
to
>see what it could be. Not until I found the Aroid Society pages did I even
>have an idea what this was. (Note here: if I took it back to the gardens
>after rescuing it from the trash they would most likely reclaim it with out
>telling me even what it was and I would have no fun with it. They didn't
>let us have any extras etc. except from the trash bin. Sigh...) That was
>last April or May and it is still going strong. It didn't bloom and I
don't
>even know if it is supposed to.
>
>I love working with the plants but am now really getting excited to buy
some
>from you all who have them available. This last year we have had an
>exciting time going on at our church as we have just moved into a new one
>and I will be placing many of these interesting ones on display there so
>people can learn about them and appreciate them. Some of you may have
>heard about our minister Max Lucado. I really like the children to be
>involved in learning about plants and their environments, so besides at
>church I also volunteer teaching horticulture at the local grade school.
>
>
>Lucy Sampson
>wiz@texas.net
>
>
>
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1999.02.20 at 17:31:00(3048)
>Alistair, Jonathan, Peter, Dewey, Julius and others on the list--Thank you
for letting me know the name of this Plant! I appreciate it.<<
Dear Lucy,
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Glad to be of help! Before I continue, a word of caution--- growing and
collecting Aroids is VERY addictive!! The group of 'rascals' you mention
above are all hopeless addicts, and have been for many years, so this may be
the time to go to K-Mart and buy an African Daisy or something else!!! If
NOT, a few suggestions--- If you do not have a heated green house and if it
gets to below 40degs F. where you plan to grow these plants, perhaps the
best way to go would be to only get Aroids that go dormant in winter, in
other words the tuberous ones. Several (many!) will be available from
members on this list, such as Anchomanes sps., Amorphophallus sps.,
Pseudodracontium sps., all old world; then there will be the wild collected
species of Caladium, and other New World 'odd balls' such as Dracontium,
Taccarum, Spathicarpa, etc. All of these will be available from time to
time, and you should be able to grom these during the warm months, and when
they go dormant the pots can be stored in a warm place till the warm weather
is back. If you have a heated g/house, the possibilities will be endless,
and your space will soon be at a premium!!
>The history of this plant is that I have done volunteer work at the
Botanical gardens here and I got this pot from the pile of things they were
throwing out. No live green anything showing or from what I could tell
would be coming up. The side of pot says cabbage flower on it and the
Bonsai store tag too. I took it home and watered it, and in a few weeks a
very large and interesting shoot emerged, I NEVER say anything like it
before!! My husband and I were so excited and I poured through my books to
see what it could be. Not until I found the Aroid Society pages did I even
have an idea what this was. (Note here: if I took it back to the gardens
after rescuing it from the trash they would most likely reclaim it with out
telling me even what it was and I would have no fun with it. They didn't
let us have any extras etc. except from the trash bin. Sigh...) That was
last April or May and it is still going strong. It didn't bloom and I don't
even know if it is supposed to.<
You got lucky in finding the semingly empty pot in the trash, keep looking,
you may find something else!!! Also search their collections and see what
other species of Aroid are in their main collection, as some probuce MANY
'pups' which they may discard from time to time, or they may pot them up for
any plant sales they may have.
Your plant may eventually bloom, and it will produce a 'typical' aroid
spathe and spadix on a long peduncle (stem).
Good luck with you educational programs involving plants, and hopefully you
will receive plant lists from some of our members who do sell these
wonderful plants.
Lucy Sampson
wiz@texas.net
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From: Jim and Lucy Sampson <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.02.21 at 03:44:50(3049)
Peter,
Thank you for sharing this information with me.
If the G. boivinii had been given to you by Josef Bogner from Munich so
long ago, is this a rare plant at all? May be best if kept in the
botanical gardens collection then. It would certainly be interesting to
see it in the grey shade as well. The leaves on this are a very deep
green.
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Have you had many tubers created in the years you have had that green G.
boivinii, or are they hard to propagate?
Thank you, Lucy Sampson
wiz@texas.net
There is a spectacular grey and three shades of green clone (the same as
the plant used to describe this species) in cultivation that is worth
looking out. The Kew plant of this species (which we got from Josef
Bogner in Munich, Germanymany years ago) is the green form.>
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From: "Sampson" <wiz at texas.net> on 1999.02.22 at 04:47:09(3054)
Peter, Julius, other persons on the list,
I wanted to let you know that I must not have been too clear on talking
about
this G. bovinii that I have growing, I meant to say in this paragraph
you quoted from my statement to Peter, that the plant I got from the gardens
here, if it is rare, that it should go back to the collection. It was not
meant to
be any reference to Peter's plants leaving Kew. I would indeed feel badly
and irresponsible if I kept a plant that should be kept at the gardens by
the experts. I wouldn't do that. Just wanted to clear that up, so there
wouldn't be a misunderstanding. Sometimes it is hard to convey the thoughts
here on the computer, and things don't always come out the way I intended.
Lucy Sampson
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wiz@texas.net
Wiz the grey says-Let me call you sweetheart, I love you (then a puckery
kiss sound)and come back here girls!
A boy after my own heart, I do say that is quite a guy---
>If the G. boivinii had been given to you by Josef Bogner from Munich so
long ago, is this a rare plant at all? May be best if kept in the
botanical gardens collection then. It would certainly be interesting to
see it in the grey shade as well. The leaves on this are a very deep
green. Have you had many tubers created in the years you have had that
green G.
boivinii, or are they hard to propagate? <
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