Amorphophallus myosuroides

From: ironious2 at yahoo.com (E Morano) on 2008.02.02 at 05:02:01(17017) Hi, I just got several little tiny Amorphophallus myosuroides offsets. They are about the size of small rat turds. Sorry about the comparison but thats what they look like. Anyway, my question is, are the supposed to be this small? I know they are small but I didnt think they were this small. Also what are the care instructions? Please let me know. Thanks. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. +More -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/private/aroid-l/attachments/20080201/d0cb009e/attachment.htm

From: hetter at xs4all.nl (Wilbert Hetterscheid) on 2008.02.02 at 05:54:05(17020) They are indeed small and should be small. Depending on how long they ahve been resting (say 3-4 months max) you might want to put them in soil, keep moderately moist and they'll emerge. The mature tuber/rhizome doesn't get any bigger than some 1.5 - 2 cm and produces masses of these tiny offsets, once you have it well-esteblished. If you are a member of the IAS you could have noticed this species in Aroideana 29 (2006) on pages 65 - 67. Cheerio, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] Namens E Morano > Verzonden: zaterdag 2 februari 2008 6:02 > Aan: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus myosuroides > > Hi, I just got several little tiny Amorphophallus myosuroides > offsets. They are about the size of small rat turds. Sorry > about the comparison but thats what they look like. Anyway, > my question is, are the supposed to be this small? I know > they are small but I didnt think they were this small. Also > what are the care instructions? Please let me know. Thanks. > > > ________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Yahoo! Search. > > om/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> >

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2008.09.10 at 06:10:42(18477) Erin, Am. myosuroides is a member of a recently disvovered new group in Amorphophallus (incl. also Am. ongsakulii and a new one to be described). These have a very different growth cycle from "normal" Amorphs. The plants will develop several leaves during one season and may start flowering after a few months, alongside the leaves and then they may even produce more flowers in one season. VERY un-Amorphophallus but there it is. In my collection myosuroides is now also going dormant and even though the leaves are dying down, it is still producing flowers so it is perfectly healthy. Maybe the bud at the base of the dying leaf is a flower. I don't think there's anything to worry about. Just water less and let the plants go dormant. Maybe the flower will still develop on its own, fed by the reserves in the tuber. Keep the tubers dry during dormancy and you'll have several hundreds of them in a short while. Maybe Alan Galloway (the discoverer of this group) has additional experience to tell us. Cheers, WIlbert +More > Maybe you can tell me what is going on here. These guys started growing > about 2 weeks before spring time due to artificial light and heat.For half > of the time until now, they were growing indoors, the other half of the > time, they have been in my tropical green house where it is about 60% > shaded but gets very hot and humid.For quite a while, they did real well > in there. There are 4 bulbs, first year off sets and 14 leaves with new > leaves still sprouting. Ive also been experimenting on them with plant > steroids (Brassinolide) but that was in the beginning. The steroids really > got them going. At lease it appeared that they did but Ive never grown > these before so I have no control group to compare them to. Anyway, that > being said, does anyone know what it going on with them? are they perhaps > starting to die back for the year? Then again, each yellow leave has a new > one coming up under it. Ive never had yellowing like this before but I > have had lots of leaves > grow and die back with each leaf coming after it being bigger. > Thank you, > Erin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "E.Vincent Morano" <ironious2 at yahoo.com> on 2008.09.10 at 06:55:10(18479) Wow thank you Wilbert. Very interesting indeed. Im always grateful to get a reply from the guy at the top of the ladder. I just discovered aroids this year and I am in love. Perhaps Mr.Galloway will have some helpful info to add if you have not said it all already. Best Wishes, Erin HTML +More --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: From: Wilbert Hetterscheid Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus myosuroides To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 11:10 PM Erin, Am. myosuroides is a member of a recently disvovered new group in Amorphophallus (incl. also Am. ongsakulii and a new one to be described). These have a very different growth cycle from "normal" Amorphs. The plants will develop several leaves during one season and may start flowering after a few months, alongside the leaves and then they may even produce more flowers in one season. VERY un-Amorphophallus but there it is. In my collection myosuroides is now also going dormant and even though the leaves are dying down, it is still producing flowers so it is perfectly healthy. Maybe the bud at the base of the dying leaf is a flower. I don't think there's anything to worry about. Just water less and let the plants go dormant. Maybe the flower will still develop on its own, fed by the reserves in the tuber. Keep the tubers dry during dormancy and you'll have several hundreds of them in a short while. Maybe Alan Galloway (the discoverer of this group) has additional experience to tell us. Cheers, WIlbert > Maybe you can tell me what is going on here. These guys started growing > about 2 weeks before spring time due to artificial light and heat.For half > of the time until now, they were growing indoors, the other half of the > time, they have been in my tropical green house where it is about 60% > shaded but gets very hot and humid.For quite a while, they did real well > in there. There are 4 bulbs, first year off sets and 14 leaves with new > leaves still sprouting. Ive also been experimenting on them with plant > steroids (Brassinolide) but that was in the beginning. The steroids really > got them going. At lease it appeared that they did but Ive never grown > these before so I have no control group to compare them to. Anyway, that > being said, does anyone know what it going on with them? are they perhaps > starting to die back for the year? Then again, each yellow leave has a new > one coming up under it. Ive never had yellowing like this before but I > have had lots of leaves > grow and die back with each leaf coming after it being bigger. > Thank you, > Erin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-1435119371-1221029710=:42617----==============W43637944335331204=

From: "Alan Galloway" <alan_galloway at bellsouth.net> on 2008.09.10 at 15:30:51(18489) Erin and others that might be growing Am. myosuroides and Am. ongsakulii... Both these species tend to send up multiple leaves as well as multiple flowers during the growing season. Also both these species tend to produce anywhere from 7 to 14 offsets during the growing season. Towards the end of the growing season the offsets begin to send up leaves that can be almost as large as the parent tuber's leaf. This aspect of leaf growth (parent tuber's leaf going dormant, and offset's new leaf emerging) makes it somewhat difficult to determine if the plant is going dormant or starting an immediate second growth cycle. If you continue to keep the pot moist, the offsets will continue to grow. I've been growing these 2 species for 5 years and I stop watering them about now and force them to go dormant. I've never experimented with watering them throughout the year, so I don't know if continuous watering would put them in the 'pseudo-evergreen' category. Alan +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus myosuroides > Erin, > > Am. myosuroides is a member of a recently disvovered new group in > Amorphophallus (incl. also Am. ongsakulii and a new one to be described). > These have a very different growth cycle from "normal" Amorphs. The plants > will develop several leaves during one season and may start flowering > after a few months, alongside the leaves and then they may even produce > more flowers in one season. VERY un-Amorphophallus but there it is. > > In my collection myosuroides is now also going dormant and even though the > leaves are dying down, it is still producing flowers so it is perfectly > healthy. Maybe the bud at the base of the dying leaf is a flower. I don't > think there's anything to worry about. Just water less and let the plants > go dormant. Maybe the flower will still develop on its own, fed by the > reserves in the tuber. Keep the tubers dry during dormancy and you'll have > several hundreds of them in a short while. > > Maybe Alan Galloway (the discoverer of this group) has additional > experience to tell us. > > Cheers, > WIlbert > >> Maybe you can tell me what is going on here. These guys started growing >> about 2 weeks before spring time due to artificial light and heat.For half >> of the time until now, they were growing indoors, the other half of the >> time, they have been in my tropical green house where it is about 60% >> shaded but gets very hot and humid.For quite a while, they did real well >> in there. There are 4 bulbs, first year off sets and 14 leaves with new >> leaves still sprouting. Ive also been experimenting on them with plant >> steroids (Brassinolide) but that was in the beginning. The steroids really >> got them going. At lease it appeared that they did but Ive never grown >> these before so I have no control group to compare them to. Anyway, that >> being said, does anyone know what it going on with them? are they perhaps >> starting to die back for the year? Then again, each yellow leave has a new >> one coming up under it. Ive never had yellowing like this before but I >> have had lots of leaves >> grow and die back with each leaf coming after it being bigger. >> Thank you, >> Erin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aroid-L mailing list >> Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "mossytrail" <mossytrail at hctc.com> on 2008.09.10 at 22:17:34(18495) > Am. myosuroides is a member of a recently disvovered new > group in Amorphophallus (incl. also Am. ongsakulii and a > new one to be described). These have a very different > growth cycle from "normal" Amorphs. The plants will > develop several leaves during one season and may start > flowering after a few months, alongside the leaves and > then they may even produce more flowers in one season. > VERY un-Amorphophallus but there it is. > Some "splitters" would say that makes it some other genus. Wonder what they'll name it...? (I suggest Hetterscheidiphallus...hee-hee.) +More Jason Hernandez Naturalist-at-Large _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2008.09.12 at 07:34:53(18501) Hetterscheidiphallus? But these are TINY species, dear Jason........tiny!!!! > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com +More > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens mossytrail > Verzonden: donderdag 11 september 2008 0:18 > Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Onderwerp: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus myosuroides > > > Am. myosuroides is a member of a recently disvovered new group in > > Amorphophallus (incl. also Am. ongsakulii and a new one to be > > described). These have a very different growth cycle from "normal" > > Amorphs. The plants will develop several leaves during one > season and > > may start flowering after a few months, alongside the > leaves and then > > they may even produce more flowers in one season. > > VERY un-Amorphophallus but there it is. > > > Some "splitters" would say that makes it some other genus. > Wonder what they'll name it...? (I suggest > Hetterscheidiphallus...hee-hee.) > > Jason Hernandez > Naturalist-at-Large > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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