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Scott Hyndman
e-mail: hyndman@aroid.org
Home page: http://www.aroid.org/
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:48:08 -0400
"Scott Taylor" wrote:
> Hello: Can someone please post (once again!) how to
> obtain back-issues of
> Aroideana? Thanks much.
> dst
>
> D. Scott Taylor, Ph.D.
> Brevard County Environmentally Endangered Lands (EEL)
> Program
> Central Region Land Manager
> 5560 North US Highway 1
> Melbourne, FL 32940
> tel: 321.255.4466
> FAX: 321.255.4499
> email: staylor@brevardparks.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu
> [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]On Behalf Of Julius
> Boos
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:35 PM
> To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Selloum/Bipinnatifidum
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eduardo Goncalves
> To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Selloum/Bipinnatifidum
>
>
> My Dear Friend Eduardo,
>
> I have just forwarded you two notes concerning the
> possible ID of a
> Xanthosoma here in Florida to you, and I hope that after
> you have read them
> and seen the photo (in the second note) you will be able
> to help by giving
> your opinion!
> I hope that you are well and happy, and that this gets
> to you OK, as it
> has been a while since I have heard from you.
> Concerning the Philodendron issue which we briefly
> discussed (below),
> would it be safe to assume that since ALL the Philo.
> 'selloum' that are
> being produced by the million by tissue culture here in
> Florida and being
> sold into the landscaping trade all have very pronounced
> intravaginal
> squamules, they are in fact P. mello-barettoanum and not
> P. bipinnatifidium,
> which you report usually does NOT have these structures?
> The plants here
> all have a green spathe (see the recent paper on P.
> xanadu) , but may have
> just a thin line of purplish color along the very edge, I
> am not certain of
> this. Perhaps in the near future we should collaborate
> on a paper
> concerning the correct identification of this very
> important plant to
> commerce here in Florida?
> A paper is certainly needed.
> I look forward to hearing from you when you may have a
> moment.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Julius
>
> >>My dear friend Julius,
>
> Just to answer your comments: Yes, I have seen
> real P. bipinnatifidum
> in USA (mostly in Botanical Gardens), but considering
> you have a better
> sampling of cultivated material, I wouldn?t be
> surprised if P.
> mello-barretoanum was the main cultivated big Philo
> there in USA.
> Philodendron mello-barretoanum was spread in Brazil by
> Roberto Burle-Marx,
> that was part of a very active group of plant traders
> there in Florida, so
> there was time enough to spread this plant for
> nurseries coast to coast.
> I have seen in the wild only plants of P.
> mello-barretoanum with a
> pure
> green spathe, but a few cultivated material have a
> spathe that is purplish
> outside (mainly along the margins), so this aspect can
> be easily selected
> by
> growers. Growers can do anything!
>
>
> Very best
> wishes,
>
>
> Eduardo.
>
>
>
> >Dear Susan,
> >
> >I`m going to take this opportunity to put in a plug
> for our International
> >Aroid Society! If you are or become a member
> ($20.00/year), you will
> >have
> >access to some fantastic information by authors like
> Dr. Eduardo
> Goncalves
> >who, in the latest issue of our journal '"Aroideaea"
> published a most
> >interesting paper on this group of Philodendron
> species. In the
> previous
> >journal there was another paper also with great
> information, photos and
> >illustrations also on species within this group of
> Philodendrons!
> >In reading Eduardo`s note to you and the list, and
> reading his truncated
> >'key' to the species in this group, it would seem to
> me that based on his
> >comments about P. mello-barretoanum, with its hard
> scales on its stem
> that
> >do not easily detach (I have received a pretty severe
> laceration on my
> hand
> >caused by my careless handling of a plant by these
> spine/knife-like
> >scales!!), it, and NOT p. bipinnatifidum is the
> species in massive
> >tissue-culture cultivation here in the U.S.A. As
> seen in the latest
> >issue
> >of Aroideana, our paper describing P. xanadu as a good
> species, hehein S.
> >Florida the 'local' and very common Philodendron which
> is sold locally as
> >P.
> >'selloum' but which for years was thought to be P.
> bipinnatifidum, has a
> >huge spathe with a green exterior, and persistent and
> HARD spines on its
> >stem. Eduardo says that in true P. bipinnatifidum
> the spathe can vary
> in
> >color, so my question is what color spathe does P.
> mello-barretoanum
> have?
> >Remember, my friends, the study of aroids is far from
> complete, we are
> >learning new 'stuff' every day!
> >
> >Julius
> >WPB, Florida.
> >
> > > Leslie,
> > >
> > > When I ordered philodendron from Alvim Seidel the
> first time, I
> ordered
> >P.
> > > selloum, P. bipinnatifidum, and also P. Sao Paulo.
> I thought I was
> >going
> >to get
> > > totally different plants. I don't know if I'm
> right on all of this,
> but
> >from
> > > what I've been able to figure out, selloum and
> bipinnatifidum are
> >synonomous. I
> > > think Sao Paulo is another variety of splitleaf
> philodendron.
> However,
> >Sao
> > > Paulo might be just another name for P.
> bipinnatifidum, but this is
> for
> >someone
> > > else to say. This year I ordered another split
> leaved Pilodendron
> that
> >is
> >very
> > > similar to these three called P. lundii. I did
> find that P. lundii is
> a
> > > different 'looking' form of bipinnatifidum. Maybe
> more compact,
> bushy?
> > > Selloum/bipinnatifidum will grow into a tree form
> with a trunk in
> time.
> > >
> > > Someone else on the list might be able to clear
> this up. I would be
> >interested
> > > in knowing the true facts on the splitleaf
> philodendrons also.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Susan Cox
> > >
> > >
> > > 5/8/03 6:15:22 AM, Leslie Georgeson
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Could someone please tell me what the difference
> between Philodendron
> >Selloum
> > > and Philodendron Bipinnafididum is? I ordered a
> packet of each type
> of
> >seed,
> > > they look the same, but the Bipinnatifidum says it
> needs
> stratification
> >before
> > > planting. When I researched these plants, they
> appear to be
> identical.
> >So,
> > > what, exactly, do I have? Thank you! Leslie
> > > >
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