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  Re: [Aroid-l] North Queensland
From: Brad O'Reilly <b.oreilly at live.com.au> on 2011.02.08 at 07:48:41
Good to hear from you Mick.
At least your safe and your home was one that was spared. =3B
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>=3B From: aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com
>=3B Subject: Aroid-L Digest=2C Vol 79=2C Issue 15
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>=3B 1. Re: North Queensland (Michael Pascall)
>=3B 2. Re: Philodendron sp.=2C Atlantic forest=2C Northeastern Bahia=2C
>=3B Brazil (Johannes Moonen)
>=3B 3. Re: Amorphophallus titanum (Eduardo Gomes Goncalves)
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>=3B Message: 1
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 21:14:29 +1000
>=3B From: Michael Pascall <=3Bmickpascall@hotmail.com>=3B
>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] North Queensland
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>=3B cat 5 cyclone overhead is no fun
>=3B esp. for the garden .house ok
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>=3B Michael Pascall=2C
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>=3B From: greg@alpacamanagement.com
>=3B To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 2 Feb 2011 08:16:08 +1030
>=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] North Queensland
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>=3B To all our friends in North Queensland.
>=3B Stay safe and please let us know that all is well after the cyclone passes.
>=3B Greg Ruckert
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>=3B Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 08:51:22 -0300
>=3B From: Johannes Moonen <=3Bemeraldjunglevillage@wanadoo.fr>=3B
>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron sp.=2C Atlantic forest=2C Northeastern
>=3B Bahia=2C Brazil
>=3B To: Discussion of aroids <=3Baroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>=3B
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>=3B Dear Leland=2C
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>=3B I have slides of both Saxi and Leal in nature at the Chiapas
>=3B Diamantinas in Bahia.
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>=3B I will digitalize and sent them to you.
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>=3B Tchao=2C Joep
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>=3B On Feb 6=2C 2011=2C at 7:14 PM=2C brian lee wrote:
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>=3B >=3B Dear Alex=2C
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>=3B >=3B Aloha.
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>=3B >=3B I focus on Philodendron subgenus=2C Meconostigma...this one is a
>=3B >=3B member of the subgenus=2C Philodendron. Marcus Nadruz or Eduardo
>=3B >=3B Goncalves would be the best to comment on this taxon. However=2C it
>=3B >=3B looks like it has affinities to Philodendron melinonii of the
>=3B >=3B Amazonian regions. The only thing that is atypical is the long
>=3B >=3B internode of the younger growth. I have seen this happen if the
>=3B >=3B seedling is found wedged in the persistent leafbases of palms and
>=3B >=3B the internodes can elongate. This particular plant looks like an
>=3B >=3B immature of Philodendron melinonii. It may be something totally
>=3B >=3B different as your location is so far south from the natural
>=3B >=3B distribution range of this species. At any rate the fibers and
>=3B >=3B certain details remind me of this.
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>=3B >=3B On a Meconostigma question=2C could you photograph and post pictures
>=3B >=3B of Philodendron saxicola and Philodendron leal-costae =2C found in
>=3B >=3B Bahia? If you run across any Meconostigma in Bahia=2C like
>=3B >=3B Philodendron williamsii....any habitat photos would be very
>=3B >=3B interesting to see.
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>=3B >=3B Aloha=2C
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>=3B >=3B Leland
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>=3B >=3B From: Alex Popovkin <=3Bpopovkin@gmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com
>=3B >=3B Sent: Sun=2C February 6=2C 2011 12:39:53 AM
>=3B >=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron sp.=2C Atlantic forest=2C Northeastern
>=3B >=3B Bahia=2C Brazil
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>=3B >=3B ID help requested on this local Philodendron sp. (Brazil:Bahia:Entre
>=3B >=3B Rios:Areal:-12.15 -37.53 50m).
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>=3B >=3B http://www.flickr.com/photos/plants_of_russian_in_brazil/sets/72157625982585354/
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>=3B >=3B Thanks.
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>=3B >=3B Alex Popovkin=2C Bahia=2C Brazil
>=3B >=3B -12.01 -38.02
>=3B >=3B Over 8=2C150 images of local flora (and fauna): http://tinyurl.com/popovkin
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>=3B >=3B http://popovkin.wordpress.com/
>=3B >=3B http://www.google.com/profiles/popovkin
>=3B >=3B twitter @popovkin
>=3B >=3B "Nomina si nescis=2C perit et cognitio rerum" (Carl Linnaeus=2C
>=3B >=3B Philosophia Botanica)
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>=3B Message: 3
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 13:12:50 -0200
>=3B From: Eduardo Gomes Goncalves <=3Beduardo.goncalves@inhotim.org.br>=3B
>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus titanum
>=3B To: Discussion of aroids <=3Baroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>=3B
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>=3B Dear Alistair
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>=3B You are absolutely correct. I have re-checked this morning and "titanum" is the genitive plural of "titan" so it means exactly "of the titans". Since it came from greek=2C its declension is anomalous.
>=3B Many thanks for your help.
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>=3B Very best wishes=2C
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>=3B Eduardo.
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>=3B Em 06/02/2011=2C ?s 21:15=2C Alistair Hay escreveu:
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>=3B >=3B I think the point is that not all speces epithets are adjectival=2C so they do not necessarily have to agree with the gender of the genus.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B For example in Alocasia scalprum the epithet is a noun which happens to be neuter: the knife alocasia. An adjectival latin epithet in Alocasia would indeed be feminine: Alocasia indica: the indian Alocasia.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Aglaonema is a neuter genus=2C as are Cyrtosperma=2C Arisaema and Syngonium. So its Aglaonema rotundum=2C Cyrtosperma cuspidispathum=2C Arisaema concinnum and Syngonium chiapense when the epithet is adjectival.
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>=3B >=3B In Amorphophallus titanum=2C the epithet is not an adjective. I am uncertain but fairly sure it is the genitive plural=2C meaning "of the titans" or something like that. It does not mean the adjective "titanic".
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>=3B >=3B Alistair
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>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On 05/02/2011=2C at 10:50 PM=2C "Marek Argent" <=3Babri1973@wp.pl>=3B wrote:
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Dear Eduardo=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B A good point.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B The suffix -um is neutral and it fits to all grammatic genera:
>=3B >=3B>=3B Also feminine botanical genera species epithet can end with -um=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B the examples are: Arisaema triphyllum=2C Alocasia scalprum=2C Aglaonema commutatum=2C Syngonium auritum...
>=3B >=3B>=3B But indeed=2C I have never heard another construction like Amorphophallus titanum.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I always wondered why Alocasia macrorrhizos is a proper name=2C the epithet is of Greek origin=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B and I don't know why it is named so. The suffix -os is masculine in Greek=2C and Alocasia is feminine.
>=3B >=3B>=3B And what do you think about the name Synandrospadix vermitoxicus?
>=3B >=3B>=3B I can't find anywhere what is the gender of the word "spadix". Isn't it feminine?
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B There is also one important note=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B many people erroneously take genera ending with -is as masculine=2C but it is feminine=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B Ariopsis peltata or in other families Iris pumila=2C Clematis lanuginosa etc.
>=3B >=3B>=3B Also the genera ending with -as are feminine: Anubias gigantea=2C Zamioculcas zamiifolia=2C Cycas revoluta.
>=3B >=3B>=3B But... the pine tree=2C Pinus seems to be a masculine word=2C and we have Pinus sylvestris=2C P. excelsa=2C P. nigra=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B while some other species of pine end usually with -us: like Pinus strobus.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Strange things...
>=3B >=3B>=3B Marek
>=3B >=3B>=3B ----- Original Message -----
>=3B >=3B>=3B From: Eduardo Gomes Goncalves
>=3B >=3B>=3B To: Discussion of aroids
>=3B >=3B>=3B Sent: Thursday=2C February 03=2C 2011 4:34 PM
>=3B >=3B>=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus titanum
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Dear fellows=2C
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>=3B >=3B>=3B I have a silly (but important) question for you. As far as I know=2C Amophophallus is a masculine word=2C am I correct?
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B In Latin=2C except for the name of traditional trees (Malus=2C Pyrus=2C etc)=2C all names ended in -us are male names. So it is correct to say that all adjective epithets in Amorphophallus species end with -us (A. gomboczianus=2C A. hirsutus=2C A lunatus=2C A. glaucophyllus=2C etc).
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Why Amophophallus titanum is not A. titanus? Other species with a similar epithet (I don't remember none in plant kingdom=2C but I know Dorcus titanus - a beetle)... Wilbert=2C do you have any reason for this?
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