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From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.02.12 at 21:30:12(345)
O.K. on all the comments.... Here is the story...

Aroideana was mailed on February 4, 1997. It was mailed with our Bulk Mail
Permit (otherwise it would really have cost a fortune). Now, all of us
know the Post Office... they do things in their own time. I have not
received my copy yet via the mail but since I helped stuff the envelopes
and get them ready for mailing, I have a copy that I snitched... (It is
great and worth the wait.) Now, I certainly can sympathize with you if you
have not received your copy but there is nothing we can do but wait for the
Post Office to deliver it. For instance, I live less than ten miles from
the Post Office where it was mailed. Others that live closer and further
away have and have not recieved copies... there is no rhyme or reason as
to how the Post Office does this thing... Have patience, it has been
mailed!!! And, if you were a member of IAS in 1996, you will receive a

[Editor's note from listowner: Aroideana vol. 19 was airmailed to 1996
overseas IAS members. Many of you probably have your copies already.]

If you are not a member... Please go to the IAS Web Site and secure an
application! We would love to have you as our next member!

From: grsjr at juno.com (George R Stilwell, Jr.) on 1997.02.12 at 21:35:04(346)
>Gee, it sounds like everyone else is thumbing through the pages of their
>new Amorph Aroideana but I haven't gotten one. Was it recently mailed
>or should I wonder where mine went?

>Clear skies,

From: "Mr R.a McClure" <Rob.McClure at sci.monash.edu.au> on 1997.02.13 at 04:56:58(349)
It seems it is quicker to send a plane across the Pacific than it is
to send a mail van around the suburbs of some US states.
My copy of Aroideana vol. 19 arrived within 8 days of posting and I
can hardly put it down.
What an interesting, informative and visually exciting piece of work
this is.
Congratulations to everyone concerned, you should be proud of it.
What a class act the IAS is becoming.

Cheers from heat exhausted, bushfired and drought stricken Melbourne.


From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.11.10 at 16:36:00(1600)
Dan Bryner, a long time friend of mine is going out of plants. He has had
some major changes in his life. He has a complete set of Aroideana that he
would like to sell. It is complete up to and including Volume 18. You may
contact Dan at (813) 868-8290 or (813) 863-1475 for any further

From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.11.13 at 17:12:25(1611)
Dan Bryner has been successful in selling his Aroideanas... So, no more
calls please.. AND, Thank you!

From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1998.07.18 at 00:45:36(2489)
To all Members of the IAS:

I am very happy to tell all of you that Aroideana, Volume 20 for 1997 was
mailed today. I took some to the Post Office and Winnie Glover took
some... so, I know that they are on their way. Now, when the Post Office
decides to deliver them... that is another story.

I think you will be happy with the content. There are fifteen articles
that are very interesting. One that, for me, stood out was an article by
Julius Boos entitled "Observations on New World Araceae - Lasieae".
Extreemly interesting and very well written... Of course we all know
Julius as a frequent poster to aroid-l....

But, it is on its way.....

Aroideana, Vol. 21, should be in the mail by the end of August or at the
very latest... First of September... I shall stay on top of it and keep
you posted...

From: "Greg Ruckert" <greg at ezi-learn.com.au> on 1998.07.24 at 13:59:46(2506)
My congratulations on a fine issue of Aroideana, well worth the wait.
Greg Ruckert
From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1998.07.24 at 18:08:43(2508)
>My congratulations on a fine issue of Aroideana, well worth the wait.
>Greg Ruckert

On behalf of Amy Donovan, Editor..... Thank you.

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.07.26 at 15:54:04(2512)
>My congratulations on a fine issue of Aroideana, well worth the wait.
>Greg Ruckert

>>On behalf of Amy Donovan, Editor..... Thank you.

From: alistair_hay_at_po-sydney at rbgsyd.gov.au on 1998.07.28 at 03:41:59(2513)
Indeed an excellent issue. Congrats & thanks to authors, editors &
Alistair Hay

From: "Alan Galloway" <alan at unity.ncsu.edu> on 1998.07.28 at 15:07:46(2514)
Received my issue of Aroideana here in Raleigh, NC, USA yesterday. A fine
job by authors, editors, and all. What I really noticed about this issue
was a great balance between tropical subjects and temperate subjects.

When I first joined the International Aroid Society a few years ago, I
purchased the full set of Aroideana and I consider it the best investment
I have ever made. For me this has been the set of reference material
I turn to time after time for aroid information. I would highly recommend
any member of Aroid-l that isn't a member of IAS to join; the dues are
nominal and Aroideana is worth every penny.


From: StellrJ at aol.com on 1998.08.01 at 04:20:17(2516)
I must concur with the other posters that it was worth the wait. I especially
liked the new species descriptions. Maybe soon--the new Xanthosoma from Costa

From: plantnut at macconnect.com (Dewey Fisk) on 1998.12.17 at 01:00:52(2838)
Good news. I know of three Aroideanas that have been delivered. Mine and
my neighbor, Ralph Lynam. Also one in Raleigh, NC.

Just to check the mail, would you please send me a ***private e-mail*****

From: "Peter Boyce" p.boyce at rbgkew.org.uk> on 2000.11.07 at 15:43:19(5640)
Dear All

The deadline for the submission of mss for the next issue of
Aroideana (vol. 24) is 31 January 2001.

Best wishes


From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2001.01.25 at 05:25:55(5865)
Dear Aroiders,

Anybody out there knows the ISSN number of Aroideana? I know it is a
silly question for plant lovers, but I need it!

Cheers from rainy S?o Paulo,


From: "Peter Boyce" p.boyce at rbgkew.org.uk> on 2001.01.25 at 14:00:18(5871)

Aroideana isn't ISSN listed.


From: Lewandjim at aol.com on 2001.01.25 at 14:02:30(5872)
In a message dated 01/25/2001 12:26:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
edggon@hotmail.com writes:

<< Anybody out there knows the ISSN number of Aroideana? I know it is a

From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2001.01.26 at 00:24:56(5873)

Aroideana (USA) ISSN 0197-4033. ( Shelf Code): S14376


From: "patricia frank" tricia_frank at hotmail.com> on 2001.01.26 at 00:35:29(5878)
Hi Eduardo It is 0197-four0Three Three key oard not working Tricia

>From: "Eduardo Goncalves"
>Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L

From: Sue Haffner sueh at csufresno.edu> on 2001.01.26 at 00:41:31(5880)

The ISSN for Aroideana is 0197-4033. (I checked the bibliographic
record on OCLC. I'm a librarian; I use this database every day.)

Sue Haffner

From: "Peter Boyce" p.boyce at rbgkew.org.uk> on 2001.01.26 at 16:03:41(5884)
Hi Tricia

I didn't know that - Eduardo, sorry for the wrong info.

Tricia: we really should get that added to the journal.


From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2001.01.26 at 16:05:14(5885)
Dear friends,

Thanks to Jim, Pete, Ray, Tricia and Sue, that wasted their time to look
for such bureaucratic itens! What about print this number in the next
Aroideana? It seems silly but, believe me guys, some day you will need it
(even if you are not a librarian)!

Best wishes,

Eduardo (almost drowning in aroids)

From: Jack Honeycutt jhoneycutt at uswest.net> on 2001.01.28 at 21:12:17(5893)
At 06:35 PM 1/25/2001 -0600, you wrote:

>Hi Eduardo It is 0197-four0Three Three key oard not working Tricia

And George thought he had trouble missing all the "W's".....


From: Aroideae at aol.com on 2004.01.13 at 19:01:52(11014)
My copy of Aroideana has arrived and it's marvelous, a nice, fat edition full
of many papers on different subjects! Congratulations and MANY thanks to

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From: chammer at cfl.rr.com (Bluesea) on 2007.09.05 at 16:04:17(16217)
Philodendron and anthurium were largely treated decades ago in
Aroideana. I have been highly disappointed at the over-emphasis of
amorphophallus and other tuberous aroids in the most recent decades, so
much so that I occasionally consider canceling my membership and
subscription. Sadly, aglaonema, syngonium, raphidophora, epipremnum and
other genera are only occasionally mentioned these days. I guess I'm
old school, I find the tuberous aroids boring and only slightly
interesting. I have no clue why they have taken Society members by storm.


From: jmdeluca05 at earthlink.net (jmdeluca05 at earthlink.net) on 2007.09.12 at 08:52:33(16264)
I agree with Russ. But then it's probably what you like...I grow mostly Alocasias, Colocasias, Xanthosomas, Dieffenbachias, Aglaonemas, philos and anthuriums. I have a few tuberous aroids, but they do not interest me as much. Hopefully, Aroideana will become more well-rounded in the future.


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From: derek at horticulturist.com (Derek Burch) on 2007.09.12 at 11:55:00(16265)
Hi Russ,

As always your editor welcomes suggestions for the makeup of Aroideana,
which we all recognize to be one of the few tangible benefits of membership
(not to downplay the enormous satisfaction from the ?intangibles? that boost
interest in the family), but he journal can only include the material
submitted to it and endorsed by the reviewers. I am very pleased by what is
coming in, but recognize that there may be many members who would like other
topics to be included.

From: criswick at spiceisle.com (criswick) on 2007.09.12 at 12:03:59(16266)
I couldn?t agree more, Russ !

John Criswick

From: crogers at ecoanalysts.com (D. Christopher Rogers) on 2007.09.12 at 21:20:31(16269)

Speaking as an associate editor for the Journal of Crustacean Biology,
journals typically publish the acceptable manuscripts submitted to them.
Journals rarely commission papers, unless there is a specific theme for a
given issue. Sometimes you get plenty of articles on a variety of topics
submitted, but the authors have done a terrible job. When paper is submitted
that is in need of revision, it is up to the editor and reviewers to alert
the authors, who may or may not want to bother and either submit elsewhere
or are demoralized and give up.

My advice is, if you want to see more articles on other taxa, then write
them or encourage and/ or collaborate with others to get them written.
Remember that whatever you write will get marked up extensively. That is
okay. The editorial and review processes are designed to help you to be a
better writer. Do not be discouraged if your article gets trashed. The
review process is there to make you the author and the journal stronger.

I would also like to mention that our beloved editor always sends pleas for
article submissions out on the Aroid List. So, obviously there are needs
amongst the readership and the editorship.

Oh, and I like tuberous aroids too, so there. ;-)

Happy days to all,

From: criswick at spiceisle.com (criswick) on 2007.09.12 at 21:50:16(16271)
Dear Derek,

Actually those colourful Aglaonema hybrids from Thailand, etc.,
are a lot easier to grow now than the first ones that came out. The A.
rotundum genes made them a problem to grow but this has been bred out to a
great extent, without losing the red, in fact at some breeders? places near
Bangkok I saw solid red leaves ! I bought a cv. called Valentine with a lot
of red which was bred by Dr. Mehta in Thailand and I just keep splitting it
up and multiplying it with no more care than I would give to any other
aglaonema.. Aroiders may not go for them but I think the general public
will in that it?s almost impossible to get anything any other colour than
green, silver, etc., in a house plant. Now with these Aglaonema hybrids, it
is possible. But we will see how it works out in the long run.


From: plantguy at zoominternet.net (Daniel Devor) on 2007.09.12 at 23:01:01(16272)
Yes Christopher, a well thought out statement. As a reviewer for many scientific journals in the area of ion channel biology and a former associate editor for the American Journal of Physiology: Cell Physiology, and someone that publishes a reasonable number of manuscripts it is imperative that the person requesting more scientific studies be published either do the science required or collaborate with someone that is sufficiently knowledgeable to carry them out. If the genera suggested have been published on extensively previously then there needs to be some credible new science that advances the field significantly prior to publication otherwise it is simply an anecdote and not worthy of publication.

While ISI ratings are likely not critical to Aroideana the published articles should still strive to be of the highest scientific merit and thus, as pointed out, a critical review by atleast 2 experts in the field must be obtained and the authors must then rebut or address the critiques of their work. If they can not address the critiques then the manuscript should be rejected. If the initial submission is clearly not scientifically sound it should be rejected outright with no chance for revision. However, like any journal in any field of study the hottest topics (dare I say sexiest) typically make it to press sooner and in larger number as this is what the editors typically strive for to increase the impact of their journal. Publishing articles that are not widely read is the quickest way to destroy the impact of any journal.

As Christopher points out below someone has to do the science and write up the results of the study and if the main authors submitting their work for publication work in the area of tuberous aroids then that is what subscribers to the journal should expect to read.

So, who is going to write the next article on those long climby thingies :o)

For those up north it is getting chilly.....maybe a hot topic on global warming and how I will someday be able to have Philos growing up the trunks of my trees outside here in zone 6a!!!!!

All the best,


From: derek at horticulturist.com (Derek Burch) on 2007.09.12 at 23:58:07(16274)
Do I sense an article in the works
? Derek

From: criswick at spiceisle.com (criswick) on 2007.09.13 at 10:09:19(16277)
It certainly is an interesting subject, and the illustrations would be
colourful, but a lot of research would be needed!


From: crogers at ecoanalysts.com (D. Christopher Rogers) on 2007.09.14 at 16:13:07(16287)

As regards the Aglaonema problem, there is no reason why an article cannot
be submitted describing what is known, and then detailing all the unknowns
and future research needs.

Another great topic in my mind, would be to present a catalog of the Aroids
in a given major collection. For example: Some one could write up a catalog
in phylogenetic order (according to TAG) of all the aroid species in the
living collections at the Fairchild Botanical Gardens, or maybe a university
collection. The purpose of this would be alert researchers where certain
plants may be found for pollen, seed, genetic, or morphological studies.
Similarly, people looking to increase the genetic diversity of their
collection may swap pollen, seeds or tubers. This could promote conservation
efforts for certain taxa. It might help people who are trying to identify a
plant they have, if they can find it in another collection and compare.

I have around 30 genera and about 90 species, but I do not think my little
collection is worth an article. But my local university has close to 100
genera with around 200 species. And I know there are important private
collections that that are even larger, that may have important species.

The same sort of catalog can be done for herbarium collections.

Just my two cents worth.

From: "Alberto Grossi" <crinum at libero.it> on 2008.10.29 at 07:46:44(18686)
Hi All, what about Aroideana? It has been published?
Thank you


From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2008.10.29 at 17:07:15(18688)
I received copies some weeks ago butI'm not sure about the international mail.

Steve Lucas



From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2008.12.02 at 16:36:16(18772)
Marc has very kindly agreed to let me send this to the list that he used
recently. I hope that will not be seen as new spam ! Derek Burch

"Good morning, Marc,

I am starting to be really concerned that NO papers are coming in for the
next Aroideana, and was very tempted to steal your email list by doing a
"reply to all" to get the word out to the 'serious' aroiders to whom you had
sent the notice of the conference . I decided that that would be a bad
breach of etiquette, but perhaps you would consider forwarding this to your
list. It is true that the deadline for getting the text part to me is not
until January 15 (the usual date), but I have normally had some expressions
of interest by now.

I am also not getting much response to my announcement that the cultivar
registration programme is underway - I don't expect congratulations, but
would love volunteers to help with checking the existing lists, adding new
cultivars and even doing registration forms for those cultivars whose
descriptions have appeared in print. I won't be able to do this without help
of that sort. Quite a dilemma.

I hope that all is well with you, and that the wintry weather that seems to
be settling in further north is not affecting your area too badly.

Regards. Derek"

From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2014.01.01 at 01:48:55(22958)
Looking through some old aroid-l posts, wondering who to bug
for articles from growers for Aroideana 37, I came across an email of mine from
June 2013 when there had been some posts about African aroids. Here it



From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2015.01.24 at 16:52:54(23215)
Do you know the old saying “Suppose you gave a party
and nobody came”? Well, now suppose you planned volume 38 of Aroideana
and no one wrote for it.

What now? Derek



From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2015.01.24 at 18:34:19(23216)
Quite sad to hear Derek,

I have nothing to write as I have but one or two lowly aroids growing indoors so i'm below novice. Here's trusting someone get's their pens out quick.

Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
Maine Zone 5



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