FUTURE MEMBERS COMMUNICATION

From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2001.07.07 at 06:32:03(6969) OPEN LETTER TO ALL MEMBERS The first "Newsletter" for nine months was produced very time consumingly over three weeks in May. It was sent by snail and some Members as far apart as Florida(!) & Wisconsin still hadn't got their hard copies today 7th July. I have emailed default email copies to all from whom I received requests. The reactions from some Members have been positive, generous & encouraging. Others have not been positive. Some have discouraging, nitpicking & been, shall we say, politely, unhelpful. Beside the unpaid "News Editor" you now have the unpaid graphics & digital artist Jill Bell for your communication. This is YOUR decision time. You can either leave the entire content & policy to us to evolve the publication with your positive feedback after each "issue" OR We can wait until there is a consensus so as we can provide something of which each of you want, some or all of the time.... The next "Newsletter" or as I called 23(1) the "World Member Dialogue" will contain mostly as I understand it all the details of the IAS Annual Meeting in Miami and the residual space will contain a limited range of wider material. We will soon have the information available to begin the three or more week period of production. It therefore seems likely that Members will get 23(2) by snail mail at the end of August or the beginning of September. As noted in 23(1) the Annual Meeting is on 22nd & 23rd. Except by interaction through the Public Arena of Aroid L, a snail 2001 (2) "News" cannot be interactive, nor can it be in colour. I refer you to consider most positively the World Society Membership implications of my 23(2) Editorial. Next week I will be requesting posting of Member responses to that Editorial. We will need on-line feedback of as many Members as possible whether or not they are directly on line. My position is clear. I would like to see the IAS Members communication towards monthly, in colour, supported by consequently enriched interactive Members' Website, regionally ("Chapter") downloaded for non-on-line Members with minimum snail mail for those who do not have Member Friends on line or local cost & time effective "Internet Cafe Book Shops". For the next pre Annual Meeting News if you or your Member friends want earlier copy of 23(2) by email then please email Aroid L with the following message: +More "Please send News 2001(2) to me directly by email immediately it is available", adding your Member name & email address If most are willing to make the effort I will burn the midnight oil and do my best to get the Publication to you by email by the first week in August. It will be in colour etc. All those who do not instruct me to email will receive their Publication two to four weeks later in black & white. I hope that the IAS will more & more evolve into a great International Society justifying the potential of its fine parochial origins. We need the co-operation, generosity & public spiritedness of all Members to make this phase really successful. And as a result that the AGM & Show will be most successful as always. Ron Iles World Member

From: Betsy Feuerstein ecuador at midsouth.rr.com> on 2001.07.08 at 03:41:24(6978) Ron, it is very evident to me that you have taken exceptional efforts to get the Newsletter up and going again. I would hope that our members would no matter how they feel, be civil about any suggestions that they might proffer about the issue or the production of such. I might think you would want both perceived positive and negative responses. Hopefully they will be written in a form that is not personal and with respect to the fact that someone is making a great deal of effort to do what the group wants. AS to waiting for a consensus, you may well have to wait until Hell freezes over before such is obtainable. Just do the best you can, let the suggestions be listened to, do what is within your parameters, and let the rest go. There will always be opposition to change, listen and take what seems possible and appropriate, and let the rest go wherever such goes. Never take anything personal..... what others spew at you is their stuff, let them have it. Betsy +More Ron Iles wrote: > OPEN LETTER TO ALL MEMBERS > > The first "Newsletter" for nine months was produced very time consumingly > over three weeks in May. It was sent by snail and some Members as far apart > as Florida(!) & Wisconsin still hadn't got their hard copies today 7th July. > I have emailed default email copies to all from whom I received requests. > > The reactions from some Members have been positive, generous & encouraging. > Others have not been positive. Some have discouraging, nitpicking & been, > shall we say, politely, unhelpful. > > Beside the unpaid "News Editor" you now have the unpaid graphics & digital > artist Jill Bell for your communication. This is YOUR decision time. > > You can either leave the entire content & policy to us to evolve the > publication with your positive feedback after each "issue" > > OR > > We can wait until there is a consensus so as we can provide something of > which each of you want, some or all of the time.... > > The next "Newsletter" or as I called 23(1) the "World Member Dialogue" will > contain mostly as I understand it all the details of the IAS Annual Meeting > in Miami and the residual space will contain a limited range of wider > material. We will soon have the information available to begin the three or > more week period of production. It therefore seems likely that Members will > get 23(2) by snail mail at the end of August or the beginning of September. > As noted in 23(1) the Annual Meeting is on 22nd & 23rd. Except by > interaction through the Public Arena of Aroid L, a snail 2001 (2) "News" > cannot be interactive, nor can it be in colour. > > I refer you to consider most positively the World Society Membership > implications of my 23(2) Editorial. Next week I will be requesting posting > of Member responses to that Editorial. We will need on-line feedback of as > many Members as possible whether or not they are directly on line. > > My position is clear. I would like to see the IAS Members communication > towards monthly, in colour, supported by consequently enriched interactive > Members' Website, regionally ("Chapter") downloaded for non-on-line Members > with minimum snail mail for those who do not have Member Friends on line or > local cost & time effective "Internet Cafe Book Shops". > > For the next pre Annual Meeting News if you or your Member friends want > earlier copy of 23(2) by email then please email Aroid L with the following > message: > > "Please send News 2001(2) to me directly by email immediately it is > available", adding your Member name & email address > > If most are willing to make the effort I will burn the midnight oil and do > my best to get the Publication to you by email by the first week in August. > It will be in colour etc. All those who do not instruct me to email will > receive their Publication two to four weeks later in black & white. I hope > that the IAS will more & more evolve into a great International Society > justifying the potential of its fine parochial origins. We need the > co-operation, generosity & public spiritedness of all Members to make this > phase really successful. And as a result that the AGM & Show will be most > successful as always. > > Ron Iles World Member

From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2001.07.08 at 03:41:37(6979) Ron, There is an assumption in your plan to distribute Newsletters by E-mail. That is that everyone will be able to receive and use it. For example, my E-mail will not accept file attachments or formatting so it would have to be sent to an alternate address. And even if it was received, it woild have to be in WordPerfect form for me to print it. Others will have to have it in Word form and perhaps even in Appletalk, etc. etc. +More We faced this problem in making documents available to AEG (Arisaema Enthusiasts Group) members and finally solved it by puting all documents in Acrobat form (.PDF) and making the Acrobat reader available at the source of the documents (it's free). I recommend that you do likewise. Ray GRSJr@Juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

From: Durightmm at aol.com on 2001.07.08 at 03:41:51(6980) Our editor has spoken. It is quite clear that the quantity and quality of futur issues lies directly with members. Come on folks break out your ingenuity and contribute. Ron has done an exceptionable job given the material and time he had to work with. :Lets all be a part of a greater NewsLetter. Joe

From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2001.07.08 at 16:17:51(6986) Thanks Betsy, Trying to keep up with the emails & still do my normal work, sing & assemble the Spaths.. Your thoughtful help really was appreciated. The emails are in chaos but don't wan't to neglect anyone out. Happy Days Ron +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:41 AM Subject: Re: FUTURE MEMBERS COMMUNICATION | Ron, it is very evident to me that you have taken exceptional efforts to get the | Newsletter up and going again. I would hope that our members would no matter how | they feel, be civil about any suggestions that they might proffer about the | issue or the production of such. I might think you would want both perceived | positive and negative responses. Hopefully they will be written in a form that | is not personal and with respect to the fact that someone is making a great deal | of effort to do what the group wants. AS to waiting for a consensus, you may | well have to wait until Hell freezes over before such is obtainable. Just do the | best you can, let the suggestions be listened to, do what is within your | parameters, and let the rest go. There will always be opposition to change, | listen and take what seems possible and appropriate, and let the rest go | wherever such goes. Never take anything personal..... what others spew at you is | their stuff, let them have it. | | Betsy | | Ron Iles wrote: | | > OPEN LETTER TO ALL MEMBERS | > | > The first "Newsletter" for nine months was produced very time consumingly | > over three weeks in May. It was sent by snail and some Members as far apart | > as Florida(!) & Wisconsin still hadn't got their hard copies today 7th July. | > I have emailed default email copies to all from whom I received requests. | > | > The reactions from some Members have been positive, generous & encouraging. | > Others have not been positive. Some have discouraging, nitpicking & been, | > shall we say, politely, unhelpful. | > | > Beside the unpaid "News Editor" you now have the unpaid graphics & digital | > artist Jill Bell for your communication. This is YOUR decision time. | > | > You can either leave the entire content & policy to us to evolve the | > publication with your positive feedback after each "issue" | > | > OR | > | > We can wait until there is a consensus so as we can provide something of | > which each of you want, some or all of the time.... | > | > The next "Newsletter" or as I called 23(1) the "World Member Dialogue" will | > contain mostly as I understand it all the details of the IAS Annual Meeting | > in Miami and the residual space will contain a limited range of wider | > material. We will soon have the information available to begin the three or | > more week period of production. It therefore seems likely that Members will | > get 23(2) by snail mail at the end of August or the beginning of September. | > As noted in 23(1) the Annual Meeting is on 22nd & 23rd. Except by | > interaction through the Public Arena of Aroid L, a snail 2001 (2) "News" | > cannot be interactive, nor can it be in colour. | > | > I refer you to consider most positively the World Society Membership | > implications of my 23(2) Editorial. Next week I will be requesting posting | > of Member responses to that Editorial. We will need on-line feedback of as | > many Members as possible whether or not they are directly on line. | > | > My position is clear. I would like to see the IAS Members communication | > towards monthly, in colour, supported by consequently enriched interactive | > Members' Website, regionally ("Chapter") downloaded for non-on-line Members | > with minimum snail mail for those who do not have Member Friends on line or | > local cost & time effective "Internet Cafe Book Shops". | > | > For the next pre Annual Meeting News if you or your Member friends want | > earlier copy of 23(2) by email then please email Aroid L with the following | > message: | > | > "Please send News 2001(2) to me directly by email immediately it is | > available", adding your Member name & email address | > | > If most are willing to make the effort I will burn the midnight oil and do | > my best to get the Publication to you by email by the first week in August. | > It will be in colour etc. All those who do not instruct me to email will | > receive their Publication two to four weeks later in black & white. I hope | > that the IAS will more & more evolve into a great International Society | > justifying the potential of its fine parochial origins. We need the | > co-operation, generosity & public spiritedness of all Members to make this | > phase really successful. And as a result that the AGM & Show will be most | > successful as always. | > | > Ron Iles World Member | |

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