How to ID elephant ears

From: Brian Williams pugturd at alltel.net> on 2003.10.11 at 20:36:14(10693) It can be very hard at first to tell the groups apart. Manly these are the more common and most likely to get confused. Colocasia Soft leaves leaf tips almost always point down. Usually to 6ft or more sending runners or growing from bulb. Alocasia Larger forms leaf tips point up. Leaves are thick rarely sends off runners +More Xanthosoma were the two lobes meet the leaf is not connected giving it a more arrow shaped leaf. The leaves are thin and sap is usually white manly grow from bulbs rarely runners if any. Caladium soft leaves usually under 3ft tall. Most are brightly colored. many plants will be growing off one bulb. Bulbs are usually yellow. A few uncommon ones are These if you are growing them you should know what you have most resemble the ones above. A few are harder to tell apart than other. But these are highly uncommon to find. Cyrtosperma chlorospatha Gonatanthus Remusatia Steudnera Over all I would say the best way to know these and other aroids is to grow them. I remember asking Dewey how he could tell a philo from a anthurium. Now that I have collected them and grown them, I can spot one in a nursery window at 400 yards while doing 60 in the car. :>)

From: The Thaumaturgist asitkghosh at yahoo.com> on 2003.10.13 at 03:52:06(10694) Alocasia indica and other Alocasias have green leaves with dull finish and their leaf tips point downward while Alocasia macrorrhiza has green leaves with glossy finish and the leaf tip points up. Is that a general rule? Asit +More ======================================================= --- Brian Williams wrote: > It can be very hard at first to tell the groups apart. > Manly these are > the more common and most likely to get confused. > > Colocasia Soft leaves leaf tips almost always point > down. Usually to > 6ft or more sending runners or growing from bulb. > > Alocasia Larger forms leaf tips point up. Leaves are > thick rarely > sends off runners > Xanthosoma were the two lobes meet the leaf is not > connected giving it a > more arrow shaped leaf. The leaves are thin and sap is > usually white > manly grow from bulbs rarely runners if any. > Caladium soft leaves usually under 3ft tall. Most are > brightly colored. > many plants will be growing off one bulb. Bulbs are > usually yellow. > > A few uncommon ones are > These if you are growing them you should know what you > have most > resemble the ones above. A few are harder to tell apart > than other. But > these are highly uncommon to find. > Cyrtosperma > chlorospatha > Gonatanthus > Remusatia > Steudnera > > Over all I would say the best way to know these and other > aroids is to > grow them. I remember asking Dewey how he could tell a > philo from a > anthurium. Now that I have collected them and grown them, > I can spot one > in a nursery window at 400 yards while doing 60 in the > car. :>) > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.10.17 at 11:21:09(10697) Errm... except that A. indica is a synonym of A. macrorrhizos. The best paper to read on this subject is: A. Hay. The Genus Alocasia in West Malesia and Sulawesi. Gardens' Bulletin Singapore 50:221 - 334 (1998). The nuggets re identification are on 233 - 234. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > Alocasia indica and other Alocasias have green > leaves with dull finish and their leaf tips point > downward while Alocasia macrorrhiza has green leaves > with glossy finish and the leaf tip points up. > Is that a general rule? > > Asit > ======================================================= > --- Brian Williams wrote: > > It can be very hard at first to tell the groups apart. > > Manly these are > > the more common and most likely to get confused. > > > > Colocasia Soft leaves leaf tips almost always point > > down. Usually to > > 6ft or more sending runners or growing from bulb. > > > > Alocasia Larger forms leaf tips point up. Leaves are > > thick rarely > > sends off runners > > Xanthosoma were the two lobes meet the leaf is not > > connected giving it a > > more arrow shaped leaf. The leaves are thin and sap is > > usually white > > manly grow from bulbs rarely runners if any. > > Caladium soft leaves usually under 3ft tall. Most are > > brightly colored. > > many plants will be growing off one bulb. Bulbs are > > usually yellow. > > > > A few uncommon ones are > > These if you are growing them you should know what you > > have most > > resemble the ones above. A few are harder to tell apart > > than other. But > > these are highly uncommon to find. > > Cyrtosperma > > chlorospatha > > Gonatanthus > > Remusatia > > Steudnera > > > > Over all I would say the best way to know these and other > > aroids is to > > grow them. I remember asking Dewey how he could tell a > > philo from a > > anthurium. Now that I have collected them and grown them, > > I can spot one > > in a nursery window at 400 yards while doing 60 in the > > car. :>) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com

From: "Derek Burch" derek at horticulturist.com> on 2003.10.17 at 17:14:03(10698) And. Peter, for those of us whose libraries are not that extensive ... Derek +More -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Peter Boyce Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:21 AM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears Errm... except that A. indica is a synonym of A. macrorrhizos. The best paper to read on this subject is: A. Hay. The Genus Alocasia in West Malesia and Sulawesi. Gardens' Bulletin Singapore 50:221 - 334 (1998). The nuggets re identification are on 233 - 234. Pete

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.10.18 at 08:14:45(10699) Well, if you've a reasonably good library near to where you live why not ask them to do an inter-library loan and get it photocopied? Or you could drop a line to Singapore Herbarium and ask for a photocopy. Or Kew Library. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > And. Peter, for those of us whose libraries are not that extensive ... > Derek > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] > On Behalf Of Peter Boyce > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:21 AM > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > > Errm... except that A. indica is a synonym of A. macrorrhizos. > > The best paper to read on this subject is: > > A. Hay. The Genus Alocasia in West Malesia and Sulawesi. Gardens' > Bulletin > Singapore 50:221 - 334 (1998). The nuggets re identification are on 233 > - > 234. > > Pete > > > >

From: Thomas.Croat at mobot.org on 2003.10.20 at 21:29:57(10700) Dear Pete, Derek: If there were enough interest I could run off some copies and just sell them to get the copying and shipping costs back but that might be illegal, I guess. +More Tom -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 3:15 AM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears Well, if you've a reasonably good library near to where you live why not ask them to do an inter-library loan and get it photocopied? Or you could drop a line to Singapore Herbarium and ask for a photocopy. Or Kew Library. Pete ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > And. Peter, for those of us whose libraries are not that extensive ... > Derek > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] > On Behalf Of Peter Boyce > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:21 AM > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > > Errm... except that A. indica is a synonym of A. macrorrhizos. > > The best paper to read on this subject is: > > A. Hay. The Genus Alocasia in West Malesia and Sulawesi. Gardens' > Bulletin > Singapore 50:221 - 334 (1998). The nuggets re identification are on 233 > - > 234. > > Pete > > > >

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.10.22 at 02:21:44(10702) Tom You could get away with photocopying the relevant pages (up to 15 sets, I think) provided it isn't more than 30% of the whole mss. Alternatively, I could type it up and post it (it isn't so much to type). Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > Dear Pete, Derek: > > If there were enough interest I could run off some copies and just > sell them to get the copying and shipping costs back but that might be > illegal, I guess. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Boyce [mailto:peterboyce@myjaring.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 3:15 AM > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > > > Well, if you've a reasonably good library near to where you live why not ask > them to do an inter-library loan and get it photocopied? Or you could drop a > line to Singapore Herbarium and ask for a photocopy. Or Kew Library. > > Pete > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Burch" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > > > > And. Peter, for those of us whose libraries are not that extensive ... > > Derek > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu] > > On Behalf Of Peter Boyce > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:21 AM > > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] How to ID elephant ears > > > > Errm... except that A. indica is a synonym of A. macrorrhizos. > > > > The best paper to read on this subject is: > > > > A. Hay. The Genus Alocasia in West Malesia and Sulawesi. Gardens' > > Bulletin > > Singapore 50:221 - 334 (1998). The nuggets re identification are on 233 > > - > > 234. > > > > Pete > > > > > > > >

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