Possible Typhonium identifications?

From: Ken Mosher ken at spatulacity.com> on 2005.12.14 at 05:13:33(13594) I know identifying plants by their leaves is fraught with danger, but I've also noticed that Typhoniums seem to have fairly different leaves from each other. I have 5 photos of unknown Typhoniums from this summer. If anyone would like to volunteer as guess as to what they are that would be great. I'm sorry but none of them produced an inflorescence. Unknown Typhonium #1 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-01-800x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #2 (sorry it's so fuzzy) http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-02-800x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #3 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-03-800x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #4 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-04-800x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #5 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-05-800x535.jpg Thanks, Ken Mosher +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2005.12.14 at 07:26:39(13595) Hi Ken, I am afraid you will find that you've over-estimated the art of recognizing Typhoniums in leaf. In my opinion none of your plants shows a leaf-type unique for only one species. To boot, most are rather early in leaf development or young plants and many Typhoniums change leaf shape dramatically when getting older or when producing leaves later in a season. Sorry I can't help you but I am not the only aroidologist, so maybe somebody else will surprise us. Cheerio, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Ken Mosher > Verzonden: woensdag 14 december 2005 6:14 > Aan: Aroid list; amorph_group@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Possible Typhonium identifications? > > I know identifying plants by their leaves is fraught with > danger, but I've also noticed that Typhoniums seem to have > fairly different leaves from each other. I have 5 photos of > unknown Typhoniums from this summer. > If anyone would like to volunteer as guess as to what they > are that would be great. I'm sorry but none of them produced > an inflorescence. > > Unknown Typhonium #1 > http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-01-8 > 00x535.jpg > > Unknown Typhonium #2 (sorry it's so fuzzy) > http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-02-8 > 00x535.jpg > > Unknown Typhonium #3 > http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-03-8 > 00x535.jpg > > Unknown Typhonium #4 > http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-04-8 > 00x535.jpg > > Unknown Typhonium #5 > http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-05-8 > 00x535.jpg > > Thanks, > Ken Mosher > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Alan Galloway" alan_galloway at ncsu.edu> on 2005.12.14 at 13:44:47(13596) Ken, I would have to echo Wilbert's statements about recognizing Typhonium species by leaf. I looked at your pics and for each one of them, there could be at least 3 possible species. So for accurate identifications, you'll have to wait for them to flower. When they do bloom you'll only have a few hours to get good photos, as the spathe color fades very quickly once they bloom. Alan +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:26 AM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Possible Typhonium identifications? Hi Ken, I am afraid you will find that you've over-estimated the art of recognizing Typhoniums in leaf. In my opinion none of your plants shows a leaf-type unique for only one species. To boot, most are rather early in leaf development or young plants and many Typhoniums change leaf shape dramatically when getting older or when producing leaves later in a season. Sorry I can't help you but I am not the only aroidologist, so maybe somebody else will surprise us. Cheerio, Wilbert -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Ken Mosher Verzonden: woensdag 14 december 2005 6:14 Aan: Aroid list; amorph_group@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Possible Typhonium identifications? I know identifying plants by their leaves is fraught with danger, but I've also noticed that Typhoniums seem to have fairly different leaves from each other. I have 5 photos of unknown Typhoniums from this summer. If anyone would like to volunteer as guess as to what they are that would be great. I'm sorry but none of them produced an inflorescence. Unknown Typhonium #1 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-01-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #2 (sorry it's so fuzzy) http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-02-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #3 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-03-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #4 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-04-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #5 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-05-8 00x535.jpg Thanks, Ken Mosher _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Ken Mosher ken at spatulacity.com> on 2005.12.14 at 15:17:19(13598) Thank you, Lord P. Yes, they were young plants, although the photos were taken late in the season. I'll grow them another year and I expect they'll flower then. The tubers I planted were tiny and the ones I harvested were nicely sized. -Ken +More Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: Hi Ken, I am afraid you will find that you've over-estimated the art of recognizing Typhoniums in leaf. In my opinion none of your plants shows a leaf-type unique for only one species. To boot, most are rather early in leaf development or young plants and many Typhoniums change leaf shape dramatically when getting older or when producing leaves later in a season. Sorry I can't help you but I am not the only aroidologist, so maybe somebody else will surprise us. Cheerio, Wilbert -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Ken Mosher Verzonden: woensdag 14 december 2005 6:14 Aan: Aroid list; amorph_group@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Possible Typhonium identifications? I know identifying plants by their leaves is fraught with danger, but I've also noticed that Typhoniums seem to have fairly different leaves from each other. I have 5 photos of unknown Typhoniums from this summer. If anyone would like to volunteer as guess as to what they are that would be great. I'm sorry but none of them produced an inflorescence. Unknown Typhonium #1 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-01-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #2 (sorry it's so fuzzy) http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-02-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #3 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-03-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #4 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-04-8 00x535.jpg Unknown Typhonium #5 http://dragocactoid.com/images/typhonium/TyphoniumUnk2005-05-8 00x535.jpg Thanks, Ken Mosher _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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