New Dark Alocasia

From: LARIANN GARNER <AROIDIAN at worldnet.att.net> on 2007.05.26 at 21:16:57(15723) Fellow Aroiders, I found this Alocasia at a mom n'pop nursery in south Florida; I had gone there because they seemed to have a lot of Colocasias and Alocasias. This plant stopped me in my tracks, and of course I got one for my work at Aroidia. Has anyone ever seen this plant or know the species? I'm confident it is not Alocasia plumbea Nigra, or the one people are calling "Jurassic Dark", which is supposed to be a variety of Alocasia plumbea Nigra. I think that it is a chimeric variegant of Alocasia sarawakensis, based on morphological similarities. Once I see it bloom, I will know for sure. Here's the link: http://aroidia.com/asarawdk.htm Thanks! LariAnn +More Aroidia Research _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Alistair Hay" <ajmhay at hotmail.com> on 2007.05.27 at 00:16:33(15726) What a wonderful-looking plant! If its not a hybrid it certainly looks like alba or sarawakensis. I was interested to see you say it was not alba: not disagreeing with you, but why not? Alistair +More From: LARIANN GARNER Reply-To: Discussion of aroids To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.comSubject: [Aroid-l] New Dark AlocasiaDate: Sat, 26 May 2007 17:16:57 -0400>Fellow Aroiders,>>I found this Alocasia at a mom n'pop nursery in south Florida; I had >gone there because they seemed to have a lot of Colocasias and >Alocasias. This plant stopped me in my tracks, and of course I got >one for my work at Aroidia. Has anyone ever seen this plant or know >the species? I'm confident it is not Alocasia plumbea Nigra, or the >one people are calling "Jurassic Dark", which is supposed to be a >variety of Alocasia plumbea Nigra.>>I think that it is a chimeric variegant of Alocasia sarawakensis, >based on morphological similarities. Once I see it bloom, I will >know for sure.>>Here's the link:>>http://aroidia.com/asarawdk.htm>>Thanks!>LariAnn>Aroidia Research>_______________________________________________>Aroid-l mailing list>Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2007.05.27 at 02:16:51(15727) Whatever it is, it sure is interesting! Lari Ann, you must have been thrilled to find it!Susan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: LARIANN GARNER <AROIDIAN at worldnet.att.net> on 2007.05.27 at 02:38:30(15728) Alistair, I have the plant right next to a robust specimen of A. alba and the morphological differences are quite clear once you see them next to each other. There are similarities, however, as there are between A. alba and A. sarawakensis. For me, the tell-tale sign will be the morphology of the inflorescences when they finally appear. The A. alba actually has much more prominent venation on both the abaxial and adaxial surfaces and a heavier substance overall to the leaf than has this plant or A. sarawakensis. In some respects, one could say that this plant appears somewhat intermediate between A. alba and A. sarawakensis, as A. sarawakensis petioles have a rough, almost peach-fuzz texture and both this plant and A. alba petioles are smooth to the touch. But then there is the color, which is characteristic of neither of the two species in question! I would argue against this plant being a hybrid, as one of the most likely parents, A. plumbea Nigra, has never produced pollen in my experience, implying to me that it may be a sterile hybrid itself, or a sterile sport. An intriguing enigma, for sure! LariAnn +More Aroidia Research Alistair wrote: What a wonderful-looking plant! If its not a hybrid it certainly looks like alba or sarawakensis. I was interested to see you say it was not alba: not disagreeing with you, but why not? Alistair _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Alistair Hay" <ajmhay at hotmail.com> on 2007.05.27 at 02:52:52(15729) Looking forward to seeing the flowers! +More From: LARIANN GARNER Reply-To: Discussion of aroids To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.comSubject: [Aroid-l] Re: New Dark AlocasiaDate: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:38:30 -0400>Alistair,>>I have the plant right next to a robust specimen of A. alba and the >morphological differences are quite clear once you see them next to >each other. There are similarities, however, as there are between >A. alba and A. sarawakensis. For me, the tell-tale sign will be the >morphology of the inflorescences when they finally appear. The A. >alba actually has much more prominent venation on both the abaxial >and adaxial surfaces and a heavier substance overall to the leaf >than has this plant or A. sarawakensis.>>In some respects, one could say that this plant appears somewhat >intermediate between A. alba and A. sarawakensis, as A. sarawakensis >petioles have a rough, almost peach-fuzz texture and both this plant >and A. alba petioles are smooth to the touch. But then there is the >color, which is characteristic of neither of the two species in >question!>>I would argue against this plant being a hybrid, as one of the most >likely parents, A. plumbea Nigra, has never produced pollen in my >experience, implying to me that it may be a sterile hybrid itself, >or a sterile sport.>>An intriguing enigma, for sure!>>LariAnn>Aroidia Research>>>Alistair wrote:>>What a wonderful-looking plant! If its not a hybrid it certainly >looks like alba or sarawakensis. I was interested to see you say it >was not alba: not disagreeing with you, but why not?>>Alistair>>_______________________________________________>Aroid-l mailing list>Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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