Brazilian aroid question

From: "Derek Burch" <derek at horticulturist.com> on 2011.01.27 at 14:10:15(21833) I have received a request for help, and I am wondering if any of our ethno-botanists (or others) have any ideas. “I'm hoping you can help me identify a particular aroid, or direct me to someone who may help. The plant in question was pointed out to me when I was visiting the Amazon near Manaus back in 2000. There is little I can tell you about it except that it was an epiphytic species with long fleshy roots that, when crushed, emitted an intense and very pleasant aroma, unusual in being both floral and fruity at the same time. I was told there was some commercial interest in the plant so was hoping it could be identified on this minimal description.” Simon Mayo has suggested this possibility: “As regards the description you forwarded, it could be a Philodendron subgenus Meconostigma, and around Manaus the two most likely possibilities would be P. goeldii or P. solimoesense. They have thick, wrinkled feeder roots packed with resin canals that have a smell like he describes. It would be good if he knew what the leaves were like.” This sounds good to me (and I have forwarded it to the questioner). Does anyone else have any isuggestions? Derek HTML +More ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CBBE02.02FBA790-- --==============46988450528480446=

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2011.01.28 at 00:47:19(21834) Derek, I am sure Simon is bang on the nail but we'd need to see the whole description, notably the shape of the leaf blade, to pon it with more certainty. Pete HTML +More On 27 January 2011 22:10, Derek Burch wrote: I have received a request for help, and I am wondering if any of our ethno-botanists (or others) have any ideas. �I'm hoping you can help me identify a particular aroid, or direct me to someone who may help. The plant in question was pointed out to me when I was visiting the Amazon near Manaus back in 2000. There is little I can tell you about it except that it was an epiphytic species with long fleshy roots that, when crushed, emitted an intense and very pleasant aroma, unusual in being both floral and fruity at the same time. I was told there was some commercial interest in the plant so was hoping it could be identified on this minimal description.� Simon Mayo has suggested this possibility: �As regards the description you forwarded, it could be a Philodendron subgenus Meconostigma, and around Manaus the two most likely possibilities would be P.. goeldii or P. solimoesense. They have thick, wrinkled feeder roots packed with resin canals that have a smell like he describes. It would be good if he knew what the leaves were like.� This sounds good to me (and I have forwarded it to the questioner). Does anyone else have any isuggestions? Derek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --20cf3054aa0f95b669049add6840-- --==============)06980809398402032=

From: Johannes Moonen <emeraldjunglevillage at wanadoo.fr> on 2011.02.01 at 21:12:44(21841) Hi Friends, a photo of the species would sure help. Both goeldii and solimoesense have a strong odor when cutted. Goeldii has palmate leaves and can only be confused with P. lea-costae, when young. A hearth shape solid leaf is solimoesense. Both grow high in trees and make long roots to the forest floor to get minerals. When the host tree falls and there is enough light, they continue sometimes growing terrestrial. Unless is it a new discovered species ? Joep HTML +More On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Peter Boyce wrote: Derek, I am sure Simon is bang on the nail but we'd need to see the whole description, notably the shape of the leaf blade, to pon it with more certainty. Pete On 27 January 2011 22:10, Derek Burch wrote: I have received a request for help, and I am wondering if any of our ethno-botanists (or others) have any ideas. �I'm hoping you can help me identify a particular aroid, or direct me to someone who may help. The plant in question was pointed out to me when I was visiting the Amazon near Manaus back in 2000. There is little I can tell you about it except that it was an epiphytic species with long fleshy roots that, when crushed, emitted an intense and very pleasant aroma, unusual in being both floral and fruity at the same time. I was told there was some commercial interest in the plant so was hoping it could be identified on this minimal description.� Simon Mayo has suggested this possibility: �As regards the description you forwarded, it could be a Philodendron subgenus Meconostigma, and around Manaus the two most likely possibilities would be P. goeldii or P. solimoesense. They have thick, wrinkled feeder roots packed with resin canals that have a smell like he describes. It would be good if he knew what the leaves were like.� This sounds good to me (and I have forwarded it to the questioner). Does anyone else have any isuggestions? Derek _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-21-459984451-- --==============44972141057630397=

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