Re: [Aroid-l] aroid hybrid

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.08.12 at 17:45:31(19705) Hello, I think my suggestions are more elegant and easy to remember. Anyway, I don't remember all the rules of intergeneric hybrid nomenclature, Should the mother plant be first, does it matter? In Orchidaceae there are names composed from 3 parent plants like Brassolaeliocattleya, and I don't know if it is important from which genus the seeds were collected. Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Avent" To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] aroid hybrid Aroiders: Thanks for the comments on our possible hybrid. As for juvenility, the hybrid is over 4 years old...notice that it's already formed mature offsets. We also have a block of 6 year old Sauromatum from seed and none ever produced multiple petioles. This plant popped up in our garden and was not an intentional cross...wish I could take credit for the cross. It is large enough to have been flowering for at least two years, but there are no sign of any nearby seedlings and with such a wide cross, I would anticipate sterility. It does not seem to flower through the summer as does pinellia, so I'm assuming that it is a spring born flower...have relocated it to a location where I won't miss it next year. Since the cross was closest to the pinellia parent, I would assume the pinellia to be the maternal parent, making it a x Pinelamatum. Now if we can make the reciprocal cross, perhaps that could use x Sauronelia. > Incredible! > > You've successfully made an intergeneric cross. > Now let's think about the new genus name according to the botanical > nomenclature. > I suggest: > × Sauronellia (if the genus Sauromatum will be back) or ×Typhonellia if > venosum will stay in Typhonium. > What do you think? > > Marek > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Avent" > To: "Aroid - L group" > Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:44 PM > Subject: [Aroid-l] aroid hybrid > > >> Aroiders: >> >> Has anyone had experiences with Pinellia hybridizing with Sauromatum? >> I know all my taxonomist friends are either reaching for a stiff drink >> or headache medicine at the thought of such a hybrid. I'm not even sure >> if this is even theoretically possible, but to be sure, we never let our >> plants read genetics books. Take a look at our hybrid of Pinellia >> pedatisecta and Sauromatum venosum. The height is 2' tall and, the >> leaves are intermediate between the two parents. The plant produces >> sauromatum like speckled petioles, but with many emerging per corm >> (sauromatum only produces one each) like the pinellia parent. I missed >> the flower this year, but will watch closer next year. I'd like to hear >> your thoughts. http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids >> >> -- >> Tony Avent >> Plant Delights Nursery @ >> Juniper Level Botanic Garden >> 9241 Sauls Road >> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA >> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F >> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F >> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b >> email tony@plantdelights.com >> website http://www.plantdelights.com >> phone 919 772-4794 >> fax 919 772-4752 >> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least >> three times" - Avent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aroid-L mailing list >> Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > Tony Avent USDA Zone 7b, (0-10F winter, 90-100F Summer) Plant Delights Nursery 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603, USA ph 919.772.4794 fx 919.772.4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I've killed it myself...at least three times." - Avent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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