From: Christopher Rogers <CRogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2010.02.24 at 15:56:49
Good morning, Bernhard! For my plants, blooming seems directly tied to the previous season's nourishment. Plants kept in the shade never bloom. Plants in full sun give one bloom every other year. Plants in full sun given lots of good compost or fertilizer give one to three blooms per year. If a plant gives more than one bloom, it does not bloom the following year. When a plant breaks dormancy and grows to blooming size, if it blooms, it typically goes dormant about a month later. If it does not bloom, then dormancy is postponed for a short while.The plant obviously needs a rest. Blooming always occurs (for my specimens) in the spring, when temperatures have warmed up considerably.. I know that some people in subtropical climes have broken dormancy by putting the tubers in the refrigerator for a few weeks, then moved them in front of the air conditioner for a few weeks after that. If you choose to experiment, I would be very interested in your results. Good luck Christopher D. Christopher Rogers EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.383.4798 PO Box 4098 Davis, CA 95616 ((,///////////=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of StroWi@t-online.de [StroWi@t-online.de]
Sent: 22 February 2010 22:54
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperature requierements for Helicodiceros
Dear Christopher, thanks for your input.
Your observation that Helicodiceros stops the growth until they get low temperatures would indicate a sort if cold requirement for the "normal" growth cycle.
It would be intersting to see what would happen if one of these plants would be shifted to a greenhouse where temperatures would not drop. Maybe we get a reply by a fellow aroider who grows Helicodiceros (or tried to grow Helicodiceros) above 15 or 20 C=B0 all year round.
Then there is still the question, if the species needs the low temperatures to induce flower development in a meristem. Or in other words, if it would never flower, if kept at high temperatures.
Happy growing, Bernhard.
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> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:11:03 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperature requierements for Helicodiceros
> From: Christopher Rogers <crogers@ecoanalysts.com>
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Hello, Bernhard!
My experience is that Helicodiceros goes dormant in response to high temperatures and lack of rain, while dormancy is broken by the cold of winter, but occasionally from the onset of rain. My plants will break dormancy and start to grow in the autumn if I water them, however, they stop growing just below the soil surface. Once the temperatures drop down around freezing, they begin growing past the soil surface and into the full vegetative stage. I hope I am answering your question. Please let me know if I am still missing your point.
Happy days!
Christopher
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From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of StroWi@t-online.de
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:04 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperature requierements for Helicodiceros
Aroiders,
thanks for your replies to my inquiry and sorry for my late reply=85.
It seems that Christopher is lucky to have the right mediterranean climate for Helicodiceros.
Dan=92s experience seem to indicate that successful growth under artificial light is not possible.
The different experiences with the hardiness in zone 6 made by Steve, Tony and Jim W. might have to do with the very growing conditions. Growing it on a sloped bank in JimW.=92s case might help to keep it dryer in the cold season and the necessity of hot summers as indicated by Tony might be another important point.
I live in zone 7 (near Hannover, Lower Saxony, Germany) and planted some small offsets outside last autumn and will see what comes out of it this spring, but having a cold winter with frost down to =9615 =B0C (5 =B0F) I do not expect too much.
Susan=92s comments about growing it in a cold greenhouse, seem to show that those conditions are not suitable to bring Helicodiceros to bloom in cold wintergarten.
However, it might be possible.
You might have a look at this site:
http://culturesheet.org/araceae:helicodiceros:muscivorus
From the pictures it looks like a cold wintergarten and I hope that I can give my plants similar conditions.
This season I used deep pots and a rich organic based potting mix as recommended by the culturesheet description and the plants never looked so good before (see picture).
From my initial request there is one point still in question:
Does Helicodiceros need the colder temperatures for the switch from vegetative to generative growth, in other words, is there a cold requirement for the induction of an inflorescence?
Still curious, and thanks again to all of you who replied,
Bernhard.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:29 AM
To: aroid-L
Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperature requierements for Helicodiceros
Aroiders,
from the temperatures and seasonal rainfall on Sardinia I guess that Helocodiceros grows from late Sebtember to April or May with the maximum of rainfall in November and December and temperatures down to 8 =9CC (46 =9CF) in December to February.
I would like to know, wether the low temperatures in the growing season are neccessary or if Helicodiceros could be grown (and flower) at higher temperatures as well.
Looking forward to any comment,
Bernhard.
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