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  [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
From: Brad O'Reilly <b.oreilly at live.com.au> on 2010.11.02 at 05:41:49

 =3BAlan=2C thanks for the link. It is the first =3Bever typhonium i have grown =3Band first i have bloomed so far so its is all new to me.
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Wilbert=2C
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Will make sure next time i take pictures of the floral chamber.
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Thanks
Brad
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>=3B 1. Caladium (Marek Argent)
>=3B 2. Re: Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
>=3B (Wilbert Hetterscheid)
>=3B 3. Re: Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' (Don Martinson)
>=3B 4. Re: Two plant ID's please (One Philodendron=2C one Calla lily)
>=3B (Susan B)
>=3B 5. Re: Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp? RE:
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>=3B Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 06:09:54 +0200
>=3B From: "Marek Argent" <=3Babri1973@wp.pl>=3B
>=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] Caladium
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>=3B What about Caladium clavatum=2C has it been described or is it still C. bicolor var. rubicundum?
>=3B I got this photo last summer (2009)
>=3B http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/caladium/clavatum.htm
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>=3B I'd like also ask what is the current status of "Alocasia" 'Hilo Beauty'.
>=3B Has anyone worked on this plant?
>=3B http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/alocasia/hilobeauty.htm
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>=3B Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 13:42:43 +0200
>=3B From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <=3Bhetter@xs4all.nl>=3B
>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
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>=3B I guess this is just T. roxburghii=2C a weed in Australasia. I do stress again
>=3B that for identification of arouids=2C it is almost always necessary to open
>=3B the base of the spathe and photograph the flowers and other organs in it.
>=3B Look at the Aroid genera pages on the IAS website to see why and how.
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>=3B Wilbert
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>=3B _____
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>=3B Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
>=3B Namens Brad O'Reilly
>=3B Verzonden: zaterdag 30 oktober 2010 1:52
>=3B Aan: aroid L
>=3B Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
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>=3B Hi All=2C
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>=3B I acquired this species roughly two seasons ago as the native Australain
>=3B species Typhonium Brownii=2C but i always had my doubts. Now it has bloomed
>=3B for me i believe it may be Typhonium eliosurum based on the description on
>=3B plantNET. I have not been able to find any good pictures of the inflorescene
>=3B or the plant itself for that matter and i have had limited experience with
>=3B this genera.
>=3B It has proven coldy hardy and maintained foliage all season even through
>=3B winter with lows down to 1-2c in the unheated glasshouse.
>=3B I have attached some pics.
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>=3B Any help would be greatly appreciated
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>=3B Kind Regards
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>=3B Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 09:55:27 -0500
>=3B From: Don Martinson <=3Bllmen@wi.rr.com>=3B
>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way'
>=3B To: Discussion of aroids <=3Baroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>=3B
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>=3B The species is different=2C but here is a link to an Aspidistra 'Milky Way':
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>=3B https://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Plants/Aspidistra-elatior-Amanogawa.ht
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>=3B I cannot address the finer points of taxonomy. However=2C Hortus III suggests
>=3B that most material sold under the name of A. lurida is=2C in fact A. elatior.
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>=3B Don Martinson
>=3B Milwaukee=2C Wisconsin
>=3B Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com
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>=3B On 10/29/10 7:58 PM=2C "hermine" <=3Bhermine@endangeredspecies.com>=3B wrote:
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>=3B >=3B Speaking of which=2C do you know where a person can get Aspidistra
>=3B >=3B lurida 'Milky Way'?
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>=3B Message: 4
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>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Two plant ID's please (One Philodendron=2C one
>=3B Calla lily)
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>=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
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>=3B Thanks Mick it does appear to be T. Blumei.
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>=3B >=3B 2. Re: Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' (hermine)
>=3B >=3B 3. Re: Two plant ID's please (One Philodendron=2C one Calla lily)
>=3B >=3B (J. Agoston)
>=3B >=3B 4. Re: Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
>=3B >=3B (Michael Pascall)
>=3B >=3B 5. Re: Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way' (santoury@aol.com)
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>=3B >=3B Message: 1
>=3B >=3B Date: Sat=2C 30 Oct 2010 11:08:10 +1030
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>=3B >=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] Source for Symplocarpus
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>=3B >=3B Message: 2
>=3B >=3B Date: Fri=2C 29 Oct 2010 17:58:10 -0700
>=3B >=3B From: hermine <=3Bhermine@endangeredspecies.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aspidistra lurida 'Milky Way'
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>=3B >=3B >=3BHi guys
>=3B >=3B >=3BI did a quick google on Aglaonema costatum=2C and all I come up with
>=3B >=3B >=3Bare all these fancy cultivars.
>=3B >=3B >=3BThe mother plant=2C labeled A. costatum=2C from the IAS show has a
>=3B >=3B >=3Bgrowth habit and foliage that looks EXACTLY like Aspidistra lurida
>=3B >=3B >=3BMilky Way. Did the vendor forget to label a specific cultivar name
>=3B >=3B >=3Bon this plant? Or is this the true=2C unmolested=2C natural species?
>=3B >=3B >=3B(With all those lovely yellow dots.)
>=3B >=3B >=3BSo=2C does anybody have a Bognera to trade? :)
>=3B >=3B >=3BJude
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Speaking of which=2C do you know where a person can get Aspidistra
>=3B >=3B lurida 'Milky Way'?
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B hermine
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>=3B >=3B Message: 3
>=3B >=3B Date: Fri=2C 29 Oct 2010 21:08:20 -0400
>=3B >=3B From: "J. Agoston" <=3Bagoston.janos123@gmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Two plant ID's please (One Philodendron=2C one
>=3B >=3B Calla lily)
>=3B >=3B To: Discussion of aroids <=3Baroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B Message-ID:
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>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
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>=3B >=3B Brad =2C I think it will be the very weedy sp. Typhonium blumei
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>=3B >=3B From: b.oreilly@live.com.au
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>=3B >=3B Subject: [Aroid-l] Help with Typhonium ID possible Australian spp?
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>=3B >=3B Hi All=2C
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>=3B >=3B I acquired this species roughly two seasons ago as the native Australain species Typhonium Brownii=2C but i always had my doubts. Now it has bloomed for me i believe it may be Typhonium eliosurum based on the description on plantNET. I have not been able to find any good pictures of the inflorescene or the plant itself for that matter and i have had limited experience with this genera.
>=3B >=3B It has proven coldy hardy and maintained foliage all season even through winter with lows down to 1-2c in the unheated glasshouse.
>=3B >=3B I have attached some pics.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Any help would be greatly appreciated
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>=3B >=3B I have Asp. lurida Milky Way. Contact me if you want to do a swap. Thanks!
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>=3B >=3B >=3BHi guys
>=3B >=3B >=3BI did a quick google on Aglaonema costatum=2C and all I come up with
>=3B >=3B >=3Bare all these fancy cultivars.
>=3B >=3B >=3BThe mother plant=2C labeled A. costatum=2C from the IAS show has a
>=3B >=3B >=3Bgrowth habit and foliage that looks EXACTLY like Aspidistra lurida
>=3B >=3B >=3BMilky Way. Did the vendor forget to label a specific cultivar name
>=3B >=3B >=3Bon this plant? Or is this the true=2C unmolested=2C natural species?
>=3B >=3B >=3B(With all those lovely yellow dots.)
>=3B >=3B >=3BSo=2C does anybody have a Bognera to trade? :)
>=3B >=3B >=3BJude
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>=3B >=3B Speaking of which=2C do you know where a person can get Aspidistra
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