Suspected Asian Aroid

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.03 at 21:17:39(19036) Pete, if you're out there I'm goingto aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone ismore than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. Theblade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy onthe upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles areterete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas whatthis might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com --------------080808090708020306030203

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.03 at 23:50:22(19039) Pete replied privately the plant is Rhaphidophoradecursiva. If you have good scientific info you can share I wouldappreciate the source. Steve HTML +More ExoticRainforest wrote: Pete, if you're out there I'm goingto aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone ismore than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. Theblade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy onthe upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles areterete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas whatthis might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------040401070506000306000005

From: "Christopher Rogers" <crogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2009.02.04 at 00:19:08(19041) Looks like a Monsteroid to me . . . probably Raphidophora or one of the other similar genera in that group. Grins, Christopher HTML +More D. Christopher Rogers Senior Invertebrate Ecologist/ Taxonomist ((,///////////=======< EcoAnalysts, Inc. 1.530.756.4481 1.530. 383.4798 (cell) 1307 "L" Street Davis, CA 95616 USA ŸInvertebrate Taxonomy ŸEndangered Species ŸEcological Studies ŸBioassessment ŸInvasive Species ŸPlankton ŸPhycology Moscow, Idaho Ÿ Bozeman, Montana Ÿ Davis, California Ÿ Joplin, Missouri Selinsgrove, Pennsylvania Ÿ London, Ontario ecoanalysts.com From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:18 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what this might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/3/2009 7:57 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01C9861B.24282720 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============93528820803344767==--

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2009.02.04 at 00:31:48(19043) Hi Mr. Lucas & fellow Aroid lovers, It sure looks like the Rhaphidophora decursiva I have in the greenhouse. Good luck in all you do, sherry HTML +More TheTropix@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what this might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C9862D.AD078010----============== 28981525470195143=

From: Helmut Reisenberger <gartenbaureisenberger at web.de> on 2009.02.04 at 02:20:45(19045) Steve, I am not that expirienced as Pete, but this looks very familiar to me. We h ave one huge plant in the HBV (Vienna-University / Botanical Garden), - may be the only one in Europe, - and I am priveleged to cut it back each year (to make use of the cuttings). I trade this plant commercially in different sizes (leaf blades up to two meters - 6 ft - long and 1 meter - 3 ft- wide). I once had wrongly identified it as Epipremnum pinnatum, whi ch I do know from Australian rainforests. But finally I have learned throug h Peter that it only can be Raphidophora decursiva. If that is in doubt or wrong, please let me know! Thanks! Helmut Reisenberger +More Vienna, Austria > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "ExoticRainforest" > Gesendet: 04.02.09 00:28:15 > An: Discussion of aroids > Betreff: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I > suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to > offer an ID. > > This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The > blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy > on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles > are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what > this might be? > > Thanks! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > > aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Sheldon Hatheway <sfhatheway at yahoo.com> on 2009.02.04 at 06:08:16(19046) Steve, Sure looks a lot like my Rhaphidophora decursiva. Sheldon Hatheway HTML +More Canby OR From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:17:39 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm goingto aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone ismore than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. Theblade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy onthe upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles areterete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas whatthis might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com --0-1557693261-1233727696=:12161----==============76775630539875698=

From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com> on 2009.02.04 at 16:08:26(19050) To me it’sfairly obviously Raphidophora decursiva. John. From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] OnBehalf Of ExoticRainforest HTML +More Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 20091:18 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Suspected AsianAroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this atyou since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcometo offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The blademeasures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy on the uppersurface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles are terete(round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what thismight be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C9869F.C31A1BC0----==============ˆ66487019551288353=

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.05 at 05:14:02(19052) Thanks guys! Steve HTML +More Sheldon Hatheway wrote: Steve, Sure looks a lot like my Rhaphidophora decursiva. Sheldon Hatheway Canby OR From:ExoticRainforest To: Discussion ofaroids Sent: Tuesday,February 3, 2009 1:17:39 PM Subject: [Aroid-l]Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'mgoingto aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone ismore than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. Theblade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy onthe upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles areterete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas whatthis might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------020400000106070808090005

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.05 at 05:18:18(19053) I'd say the consensus is you arevery right! Do you have a photo of the adult plant I can use on theExoticRainforest.com website? I'm working on the page tonight butreally could use photos of the adult plant as well as any detail shotsincluding an inflorescence, abaxial blade surface, cataphylls andanything else! I'll gladly credit you any way you like. Thanks a bunch! Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com Helmut Reisenberger wrote: Steve,I am not that expirienced as Pete, but this looks very familiar to me. We have one huge plant in the HBV (Vienna-University / Botanical Garden), - maybe the only one in Europe, -and I am priveleged to cut it back each year (to make use of the cuttings). I trade this plant commercially in different sizes (leaf blades up to two meters - 6 ft - long and 1 meter - 3 ft- wide). I once had wrongly identified it as Epipremnum pinnatum, which I do know from Australian rainforests. But finally I have learned through Peter that it only can be Raphidophora decursiva. If that is in doubt or wrong, please let me know! Thanks!Helmut ReisenbergerVienna, Austria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: "ExoticRainforest" Gesendet: 04.02.09 00:28:15An: Discussion of aroids Betreff: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to offer an ID.This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what this might be?Thanks!Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com_______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------070207030300050604070405

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.02.05 at 05:20:08(19054) Sherry, I am getting old (63 onMonday) but still prefer Steve! Please, not birthday wishes either! Thanks for the assist! Steve HTML +More Sherry Gates wrote: Hi Mr. Lucas & fellow Aroid lovers, It sure looks like the Rhaphidophora decursivaI have in the greenhouse. Good luck in all you do, sherry TheTropix@msn.com -----Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent:Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:17 PM Subject:[Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'mgoing to aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. Theblade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, glossy onthe upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles areterete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas whatthis might be? Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------030301030008040905000700

From: Helmut Reisenberger <gartenbaureisenberger at web.de> on 2009.02.06 at 04:18:31(19058) Hi Steve, I ´ll do my best for the photos. I have to go there (HBV, Botanical Garde n of the Vienna University) and will climb up the plant (seven meters). I also owe the forum photos of an adult Monstera tenuis, which I once have found in the Botanical Garden of Darmstadt (Germany). I hope the plant stil l exists and I have to ask them to get these pictures. If so, I would be ha ppy, if you also could investigate/publish this wonderful species. Picts of the juvenile Monstera tenuis I have available, as the young shoots run all over my tropical greenhouse and wait to be cut back. I also have not forgotten that I have promised Leland some rooted cuttings of the Monstera tenuis. I have them available, but unfortunately I have los t the delivery address. Best regards Helmut +More > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "ExoticRainforest" > Gesendet: 05.02.09 18:06:02 > An: Discussion of aroids > Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid I'd say the consensus is you are very right! Do you have a photo of > the adult plant I can use on the ExoticRainforest.com website? I'm > working on the page tonight but really could use photos of the adult > plant as well as any detail shots including an inflorescence, abaxial > blade surface, cataphylls and anything else! I'll gladly credit you > any way you like. > > Thanks a bunch! > > Steve Lucas > www.ExoticRainforest.com > > Helmut Reisenberger wrote:Steve, I am not that expirienced as Pete, > but this looks very familiar to me. We have one huge plant in the HBV > (Vienna-University / Botanical Garden), - maybe the only one in > Europe, - and I am priveleged to cut it back each year (to make use > of the cuttings). I trade this plant commercially in different sizes ( > leaf blades up to two meters - 6 ft - long and 1 meter - 3 ft- wide). > I once had wrongly identified it as Epipremnum pinnatum, which I do > know from Australian rainforests. But finally I have learned through > Peter that it only can be Raphidophora decursiva. If that is in doubt > or wrong, please let me know! Thanks! Helmut Reisenberger Vienna, > Austria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "ExoticRainforest" < > Steve@ExoticRainforest.com>Gesendet: 04.02.09 00:28:15 An: Discussion > of aroids Betreff: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian > Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I > suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to > offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no > tag. The blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous, > glossy on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The > petioles are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any > ideas what this might be? Thanks! Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com_ > ______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L > mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/ > mailman/listinfo/aroid-l______________________________________________ > _ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www. > > gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.02.08 at 01:20:13(19060) Thanks Helmut! One of my greatestjoys is to research new aroids I'm either growing or am interested ingrowing so please do send all the photos possible and I'll begin thesearch for good info. I'm forwarding this to Leland so he can give youhis address! Thanks! Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com Helmut Reisenberger wrote: Hi Steve,I ´ll do my best for the photos. I have to go there (HBV, Botanical Garden of the Vienna University) and will climb up the plant (seven meters).I also owe the forum photos of an adult Monstera tenuis, which I once have found in the Botanical Garden of Darmstadt (Germany). I hope the plant still exists and I have to ask them to get these pictures. If so, I would be happy, if you also could investigate/publish this wonderful species. Picts of the juvenile Monstera tenuis I have available, as the young shoots run all over my tropical greenhouse and wait to be cut back.I also have not forgotten that I have promised Leland some rooted cuttings of the Monstera tenuis. I have them available, but unfortunately I have lost the delivery address.Best regardsHelmut -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----Von: "ExoticRainforest" Gesendet: 05.02.09 18:06:02An: Discussion of aroids Betreff: Re: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid I'd say the consensus is you are very right! Do you have a photo of the adult plant I can use on the ExoticRainforest.com website? I'm working on the page tonight but really could use photos of the adult plant as well as any detail shots including an inflorescence, abaxial blade surface, cataphylls and anything else! I'll gladly credit you any way you like.Thanks a bunch!Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.comHelmut Reisenberger wrote:Steve, I am not that expirienced as Pete, but this looks very familiar to me. We have one huge plant in the HBV (Vienna-University / Botanical Garden), - maybe the only one in Europe, - and I am priveleged to cut it back each year (to make use of the cuttings). I trade this plant commercially in different sizes (leaf blades up to two meters - 6 ft - long and 1 meter - 3 ft- wide). I once had wrongly identified it as Epipremnum pinnatum, which I do know from Australian rainforests. But finally I have learned through Peter that it only can be Raphidophora decursiva. If that is in doubt or wrong, please let me know! Thanks! Helmut Reisenberger Vienna, Austria -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "ExoticRainforest" Gesendet: 04.02.09 00:28:15 An: Discussion of aroids Betreff: [Aroid-l] Suspected Asian Aroid Pete, if you're out there I'm going to aim this at you since I suspect this is a SE Asian aroid. Anyone is more than welcome to offer an ID. This cutting was given to me about a year ago but had no tag. The blade measures 35cm or just over 1 foot and is subcoriaceous,glossy on the upper surface and matte on the abaxial surface. The petioles are terete (round). I'm including a photo of the stem. Any ideas what this might be? Thanks! Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com_______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l_______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------000605010603060707030309

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