Re: [Aroid-l] Zamioculcas - like Gonatopus ?

From: Don Bittel <donbit121 at hotmail.com> on 2018.08.09 at 00:49:57 Hello. The black leaved form that I bought was called 'Raven', and just said it was a new form from Asia. I hope it becomes more common. Don Bittel On August 8, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Deni Bown <denibown@gmail.com> wrote: There is also a black form which has the same glossy green leaves and swollen stems. I saw it in a garden centre in the UK in April. Both leaves and stems are black.   Does anyone know the cultivar name and where it originates?   Deni Bown   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com <aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com> On Behalf Of Zach DuFran Sent: 07 August 2018 22:38 To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Zamioculcas - like Gonatopus ?   There are two forms of Zamioculcas zamiifolia that are available. The most common is the horticultural variety with glossy green and very smooth leaves with broad, swollen stems. The other, which I have heard called the "wild form," is much more like your photos, Jude, with the exception of the variegation. The main growth (what looks like a stem but is actually the petiole, I believe) is thinner. Also, my experience is that the "wild form" tends to be more deciduous, whereas the horticultural form tends to be more evergreen.   Gonatopus boivinii differs in structure, with leaflets splayed out more horizontally, similar to Amorphophallus, rather than all along the vertical growth of the petiole.   My two cents,   Zach DuFran   On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM, D. Christopher Rogers <branchiopod@gmail.com> wrote: I will defer to Tom, of course. But to me it looks like Gonatopus boivinii. I was unaware of any variegated varietals.   I like G. boivinii very much and would like to try other Gonatopus species.  I know this one is invasive in some areas and is a pest. But I still find them beautiful. They are easily propagated from leaflets stuck upright into sphagnum. The ease of making more is what contributes to its invasiveness. They are also very sensitive to over watering, and are prone to rot.   Good to "hear" your voice again, Jude! It has been along time.   Happy days, Christopher   On 7 August 2018 at 11:45, The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Tom, Nice to hear from you! i attached a picture but it got lost along the way, it seems. I am attaching it here again. I would love your input on this creature. Best, Jude   On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat@mobot.org> wrote: Dear Jude:  Could you send your image(s).  I would like to see this strange plant.   Tom   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of The Silent Seed Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 5:01 PM To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com> Subject: [Aroid-l] Zamioculcas - like Gonatopus ?   As some of you might know, I import plants from Thailand from time to time (with the proper paperwork, of course) and a recent acquisition has me stumped. These are called Variegated Zamioculcas - but the petiole has the kinks that Gonatopus do. Is there some kind of new Zamioculcas species floating around that hasn't hit the mainstream market yet? The leaflets are heavily splashed with creamy variegation, and are slender and more elongated. I'm happy to share a picture if we are allowed? Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world.  thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world.  thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l   -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D< 785.864.1714 Crustacean Taxonomist and Ecologist Kansas Biological Survey Kansas University, Higuchi Hall 2101 Constant Avenue, Lawrence, KS 66047-3759 USA http://www.kbs.ku.edu/ http://biosurvey.ku.edu/directory/d-christopher-rogers-0 Affiliate, Invertebrate Zoology, Biodiversity Institute, The University of Kansas http://biodiversity.ku.edu/invertebrate-zoology   The Crustacean Society, North American Governor http://www.crustaceansociety.org/   Associate Editor, Journal of Crustacean Biology  http://www.crustaceansociety.org/jcb   Southwest Association of Freshwater Invertebrate Taxonomists  SAFIT.ORG HC SVNT CRVSTACEORVM _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l   --_000_DM5PR20MB15640A6D61E7D2732BAC719DE7250DM5PR20MB1564namp_-- --===============1894244726388245209==

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