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  Re: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2018.09.14 at 04:47:58
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Dear Eduardo,

Ah HA - great stuff and MANY thanks for the clarification. Wooo it means that angustatum is a pestilential weed here on Borneo!

Very best wishes

Peter

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 08:02, Eduardo Gon=C3=A7alves <edggon@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Pete,=C2=A0

To me, those on your picture are quite retuse. I don=E2=80=99t have pictures of synandria in S. podophyllum, but I am attaching a exert of Schott=E2=80=99s S. vellozianum, which is quite similar to S. podophyllum except for the red-yellow fruit issue. The furrows between individual stamens are almost indetectable in S. podophyllum.=C2=A0

If you google S. podophyllum, all you see is S. angustatum!!!=C2=A0 In fact, I have cultivated S. angustatum, S. erythrophyllum, S. auritum, S. chiapense, S. crassifolium and S. yurimaguense, but only saw S. podophyllum twice, once =C2=A0in Mexico and once in Costa Rica. They can be common locally, but I doubt someone have the real S. podophyllum in cultivation.=C2=A0

Very best wishes,=C2=A0
Eduardo.=C2=A0

=C2=A0



On 12 Sep 2018, at 08:41, The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> wrote:

Good morning Tom,
Thank you very much! I hope your travels are happy, fun, and safe.
Jude

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Peter Boyce <phymatarum@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Eduardo

So are these (see attached)=C2=A0 flat or retuse?



On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 22:26, Eduardo Gon=C3=A7alves <edggon@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear aroiders,=C2=A0

As far as I have observed, the Syngonium which is broadly cultivated is Syngonium angustatum, not S. podophyllum. The main easy-to-observe difference is on male flowers, which are retuse (shallowly lobate, like a molar teeth) on apex on S. angustatum and truncate (blunt) on S. podophyllum. I took this in Tom=E2=80=99s revision of the genus (1981). All naturalized Syngonium I have seen in Brazil and around Miami are S. angustatum. Pictures I have seen from Southeastern Asia are S. angustatum as well.=C2=A0

Syngonium auritum has subcoriaceus and pretty shiny leaves and is a lazy climber, seeming to prefer to be lurking around on topsoil. Material I have seen of S. podophyllum - only in Chiapas-Mexico and around San Jose in Costa Rica - =C2=A0climber like crazy and have softer leaves.=C2=A0

By the way, I have checked my S. auritum in my backyard and they have exactly the same aspect as that on Peter=E2=80=99s picture.=C2=A0

Very best wishes,=C2=A0
Eduardo.=C2=A0





On 11 Sep 2018, at 02:50, Peter Boyce <phymatarum@gmail.com> wrote:

here in cultivation auritum has leathery glossy leaf blades while podophyllum has thin matte leaf blades.

This is auritum (not my image)

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 09:27, Jason Hernandez <jason.hernandez74@yahoo.com> wrote:
As long as we are on the subject of Syngonium, is there a reliable way to distiguish in the field between S. podophyllum and S. auritum? It matters because in the Dominican Republic, S. auritum is native, S. podophyllum is naturalized.

Jason Hernandez
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