Alocasia macrorrhiza berrry color

From: Tom Croat <croat at mobot.org> on 1998.10.09 at 03:43:41(2669) Aroiders: Has anyone seen mature fruit on Alocasia macrorrhiza and if so what color are the berries. I have them reported as whitish though I honestly don't know where I came up with this and a reviewer of my description says he thinks they may be orange. I would really appreciate a reply from anyone who has more intimate knowledge of this species. Tom +More -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

From: "Mr R.a McClure" <Rob.McClure at sci.monash.edu.au> on 1998.10.09 at 14:49:47(2673) > Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 22:45:24 -0500 > From: Tom Croat > Subject: Alocasia macrorrhiza berrry color > To: rob.mcclure@sci.monash.edu.au +More > Reply-to: aroid-l@mobot.org > Aroiders: > > Has anyone seen mature fruit on Alocasia macrorrhiza and if so > what color are the berries. I have them reported as whitish though I > honestly don't know where I came up with this and a reviewer of my > description says he thinks they may be orange. I would really > appreciate a reply from anyone who has more intimate knowledge of this > species. > > Tom Tom, Here in Australia ( where A.macrorrhiza is native) the berries are red when ripe. Rob. Rob.McClure Biological Sciences Monash University, Clayton 3168 Victoria AUSTRALIA. Phone:(03)9905.5625 Fax:(03)9905.5613 e-mail: Rob.McClure@sci.monash.edu.au

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.10.09 at 14:56:45(2674) >>Aroiders: Has anyone seen mature fruit on Alocasia macrorrhiza and if so what color are the berries. I have them reported as whitish though I honestly don't know where I came up with this and a reviewer of my description says he thinks they may be orange. I would really appreciate a reply from anyone who has more intimate knowledge of this species. +More Tom<< Dear Tom, The color of A. macrorrhizos berries is red. This is what I have observed, and is listed in Hay and Wise`s paper on the genus---"The genus Alocasia (Araceae) in Australasia", Blumea 35 (1991) 499-545. Pg.533--- "fruit a few-seeded red berry exposed by the recurved segments of the dehiscing lower spathe". A few years ago Dewey sent me a couple of excellent photos of a huge plant in fruit exactly as discribed by Hay (above), which were done by one of his friends, so I sent them to Alistair for I.D., and they turned out to be this species. Hope this is of help. Look forward to seeing you at the show. Cheers, Julius ju-bo@msn.com -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.10.10 at 02:12:07(2679) > Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 22:45:24 -0500 > From: Tom Croat > Subject: Alocasia macrorrhiza berrry color > To: rob.mcclure@sci.monash.edu.au +More > Reply-to: aroid-l@mobot.org >>Tom, Here in Australia ( where A.macrorrhiza is native) the berries are red when ripe. Rob. Rob.McClure Biological Sciences Monash University, Clayton 3168 Victoria AUSTRALIA. Phone:(03)9905.5625 Fax:(03)9905.5613 e-mail: Rob.McClure@sci.monash.edu.au<<< Dear Rob, Are you aware of A. Hay`s work "On the identity of Alocasia brisbanensis (F.M. Bailey) Domin" in Aroideana 12, 1989, pgs26-31 ? Alistair says that A. macrorrizos "is neither wild nor even extensively escaped" in Australia, and the plant that has been for years wrongly identified as this species, is in fact another species, A. brisbanensis. Like A macrorrizos, A. brisbanensis also is recorded as producing bright red berries . He lists at least 8 major differences between the two. Cheers, Julius ju-bo@msn.com

From: alistair_hay_at_po-sydney at rbgsyd.gov.au on 1998.10.11 at 14:19:42(2684) Red. Whitish could perhaps refer to the fruiting spathe of some (Bornean)species that are quite often misidentified as A. macrorrhizos. Alistair +More ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alocasia macrorrhiza berrry color Author: at mailgate Date: 10/8/98 10:45 PM Aroiders: Has anyone seen mature fruit on Alocasia macrorrhiza and if so what color are the berries. I have them reported as whitish though I honestly don't know where I came up with this and a reviewer of my description says he thinks they may be orange. I would really appreciate a reply from anyone who has more intimate knowledge of this species. Tom -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

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