Cultivars of Alocasia x amazonica

From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1998.10.21 at 13:19:32(2709) Aroidellers, Is anyone aware of named cultivars within Alocasia x amazonica? We have here an application for registration of a cultivar 'Polly'. Recognising cultivars in Alocasia x amazonica (which in my mind is a cultivar itself with an accidental Latin binomen........) is only relevant when there is variation at all in that "taxon"! Has anybody ever seen any variation in it? +More Cheers, Wilbert

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.10.21 at 23:08:23(2713) Dear Wilbert, Just a note on this Alocasia-- A few years aback, I believe it was John Banta that published a most interesting note in the newsletter of the IAS on this hybrid and the reason for its name. If I remember correctly, the breeder owned a nursery here in florida, and the nurseries name was "Amazonica", and he named his creation after his nursery. This will clear up this hybrids name. Maybe MOBOT or someone who keeps an archive of the IAS newsletters could pull the article up if needed. Cheers, Julius +More ju-bo@msn.com

From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1998.10.22 at 14:29:04(2714) Dear Julius, Thanks for the info on the epithet amazonica. Let's face it, this thing should have been published as a cultivar in the first place (Alocasia 'Amazonica') and not as a hybrid "species" with a Latin binomen. Anyway, this suggests that the whole thing may in fact be one clone. Clonal mutations may have arisen in time and that is what I need to know. If this thing never mutates or has mutated, then there is no reason to suspect new cultivars from within it. Cheers, Wilbert +More > ---------- > From: Julius Boos[SMTP:ju-bo@email.msn.com] > Reply To: aroid-l@mobot.org > Sent: donderdag 22 oktober 1998 0:07 > To: hetter@vkc.nl > Subject: Re: Cultivars of Alocasia x amazonica > > Dear Wilbert, > Just a note on this Alocasia-- A few years aback, I believe it was > John > Banta that published a most interesting note in the newsletter of the > IAS on > this hybrid and the reason for its name. If I remember correctly, the > breeder owned a nursery here in florida, and the nurseries name was > "Amazonica", and he named his creation after his nursery. This will > clear > up this hybrids name. Maybe MOBOT or someone who keeps an archive of > the > IAS newsletters could pull the article up if needed. > Cheers, > Julius > ju-bo@msn.com > > > > > > > >

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.10.23 at 13:24:52(2717) Dear Wilbert, I will be persuing additional information on the naming of A. amazonica, and will keep you informed on my findings. One other possible scenario is that the person who produced this "new" clone ("Polly") could have pollenated one plant of "amazonica" with another plant of the same clone (asume both were produced by vegetative reproduction). The seedlings grown from seeds from this cross of two vegetative clones of a hybrid plant could be quite different one from the other, AND from their parent plants, each seedling reflecting different features of one or the other of the ORIGINAL two species used in the cross pollenation when the hybrid, A. "amazonica" was first created. Also, all aroids are notorious for their rapid vegetative mutations (evoloution) over a short space of time. One can observe this best in offshoots of the species of Xanthosoma with the little frills below the leaf blades (I believe Deni Bown calls it X. atrovirens), where the "suckers" or offshoots can be quite different from the parent plant, and could be mistaken as being from another species. Will keep you informed on my findings. OK!!!!! HERE is the story on A. "amazonica" from "the horses mouth" (AKA John Banta). Salvador Mauro, a mailman from Miami (he was killed on the job by a car!) owned "Amazon Nurseries" and produced the hybrid which he named "amazonica" after his nursery. If needed, I can find out the parentage. This can be verified by both John Banta and Monroe Birdsey. Mr Mauro was a close friend of the recently deceased Bob See, and there is a species of Homalomena named after him (its in "Exotica"). Cheers, Julius +More ju-bo@msn.com

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