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Out-of-print Arisaema book
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From: Jmh98law at aol.com on 1999.01.16 at 01:42:06(2908)
Here's another referral to an out-of-print book resource for botany books.
Jeanne Hannah
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:42:29 -0500
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Subject: Re: Out-of-print Arisaema book
To: Jmh98law@aol.com
Dear Ms. Hannah:
While I am amused and delighted to learn that the Araceae have their own web
site, I can't seem to come up w/ the title you're after. Not only do I not
see
anything on the shelves, I don't even recall anything here on them for a long
time. You would do well to try Eugene Vigil at vigile@Kreative.net as he
maintains a very large inventory of botany books.
Jmh98law@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Mr. Bauer,
>
> Someone on the Aroid-L site suggested you as a possible source for an out-
of-
> print book on Arisaema. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read about
it,
> and I did not write the title down. [It was something simple like "The
> Arisaema Book"] I search in all of my usual OOPS sites [out-of-print book
> websites], but could not locate it.
>
> Might you have it, or know where it might be obtained?
>
> Jeanne M. Hannah
> 17623 Whispering Trail
> Traverse City, MI 49686
> (616) 223-7864
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Sincerely,
Paul Bauer
Archer's Used and Rare Books
Catalogues issued in Baseball, Botany & Gardening, True Crime, and Rock &
Roll,
Blues, Jazz, and Folk Music.
330/673-0945
104 South Lincoln St.
Kent, OH 44240
USA
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From: grsjr at juno.com (George R Stilwell, Jr.) on 1999.01.16 at 03:46:24(2910)
To my knowledge there is only one book on Arisaema, Udai Pradhan's book.
It has been out of print until recently when the second edition was
published.
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It is:
Udai Pradhan 1997. 'Himalayan Cobra-Lilies (Arisaema) Their Botany and
Culture', Second Ed.
Primulaceae Books, West Bengal, India ISBN 81-85423-04-0
It has become available recently through the NARGS Bookstore, for NARGS
members, but the
supply is short. It is also available from the Alpine Plant Society in
the UK.
Copies of the original edition are extremely scarce, but I know one will
be available
at the NARGS Winter Study Meeting in Research Triangle Park, NC.
The book deals with Himalayan species and is thus not comprehensive. Yet
many of the 3-400
species are indigenous to this region. Perhaps the most glaring omissions
are the Japanese
species and North American species since many of the Chinese species also
grow in
the Himalayan region.
The cultural information is good for most species. The KEY is easier to
use than that
of Flora of China or the Japanese keys, but of course it is not
comprehensive. However,
there is no comprehensive KEY for the genus.
Ray
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:42:13 -0600 Jmh98law@aol.com writes:
>Here's another referral to an out-of-print book resource for botany
>books.
>
>Jeanne Hannah
>
>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:42:29 -0500
>From: "Archer's Books"
>Subject: Re: Out-of-print Arisaema book
>To: Jmh98law@aol.com
>
>Dear Ms. Hannah:
>
>While I am amused and delighted to learn that the Araceae have their
>own web
>site, I can't seem to come up w/ the title you're after. Not only do
>I not
>see
>anything on the shelves, I don't even recall anything here on them for
>a long
>time. You would do well to try Eugene Vigil at vigile@Kreative.net as
>he
>maintains a very large inventory of botany books.
>
>Jmh98law@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Dear Mr. Bauer,
>>
>> Someone on the Aroid-L site suggested you as a possible source for
>an out-
>of-
>> print book on Arisaema. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I read
>about
>it,
>> and I did not write the title down. [It was something simple like
>"The
>> Arisaema Book"] I search in all of my usual OOPS sites
>[out-of-print book
>> websites], but could not locate it.
>>
>> Might you have it, or know where it might be obtained?
>>
>> Jeanne M. Hannah
>> 17623 Whispering Trail
>> Traverse City, MI 49686
>> (616) 223-7864
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>Paul Bauer
>Archer's Used and Rare Books
>Catalogues issued in Baseball, Botany & Gardening, True Crime, and
>Rock &
>Roll,
>Blues, Jazz, and Folk Music.
>330/673-0945
>104 South Lincoln St.
>Kent, OH 44240
>USA
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From: Jmh98law at aol.com on 1999.01.16 at 17:20:55(2911)
Thanks, Ray for your very comprehensive answer to my query about a book on
Arisaema. Because we're usually up to our "necks" in snow in the winter, [280
inches in the winter of 1997-98, a record since they began to keep track about
100 years ago], I tend to read many books on plant culture and garden design
then. So, now on to the search for a copy of Udai Pradhan 's book. That is,
I now recognize from the author's name, the title that I came across
*somewhere* in my research last week. But then it slipped away.
Identification of my "Plant Stalker" [I was "stalked" by a plant last week]:
A wonderful plant followed me home last Wednesday. Surely you will appreciate
how *dangerous* it is for what Meijer Thrifty Acres *always* IDs as "a
Tropical Plant" even to go from the store door to a warmish car on a day when
our outside temperature was O Fahrenheit with -30 wind chill factor! [Lots of
large leaf bags --- 3 layers from the top and bottom, and a helpful bagger.]
After walking by it for weeks, hungering for it, I just decided to take my
chances. [PS the transport was successful.]
I think it is a Dieffenbachia of some species. [This is just a guess.] I
explored the IAS website without finding anything that looked like it, but the
description of Dieffenbachia seemed to fit. From the level of the growing
medium to the top of the plant is about 1 m. The four stems [stalks]? in the
16" pot are an almost waxy white/ivory color, very fleshy, and about 36 cm
where the leaf begins. The stems grow upward in a layered manner, reminding
me somewhat of Bok Choy in growth habit. The leaves are as large as 40 to 44
cm and shaped similarly to a large Peace Lily [sorry, do NOT know the genus of
that, though I'm sure you do. Peace lilies are the first plant I successful
grew. They are almost impossible to kill!] The leaves of this new plant are
spectacularly beautiful --- shiny forest green on the margins and a delightful
dull pewter in the center. The white/ivory from the stem traces into the
central veining on the leaf, and just a little more on the lateral veins.
This plant is *so beautiful* that two customers in Meijer came up to touch it
to see if it is REAL!
There are presently 6 inflorescences. They arise from the apex of the leaf,
sometimes 2 or 3 together. The stems of the flowers are about 10 cm long, as
is the present length of the flowers. The flowers seem immature right now as
the spathe has not opened much. The spadex is white/ivory with a tinge of pale
green, extending to the tip of the spathe. The spathe itself, just now, is
colored a pale green. Whether that will change as the flower matures is
unknown to me.
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Any clues on identification from the above description?
Thanks,
Jeanne Hannah
Zone 5b
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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 1999.01.17 at 05:32:13(2913)
Jeanne, it sounds like you desperately needed a green fix. What a gamble you
took bringing your new charge from warmth, to bitter cold and then warmth
again. I can imagine why a customer would touch to be sure it was real. I mean
in the northern tundra, one rarely sees beauriful fresh leaves with neat
patterns that are real. If it looks like a dieffenbachia and blooms like a
dief, it just might be. It is so much fun to hear someone get so excited about
the discovery of a new plant. Enjoy your new plant and it will enjoy being
with you........Sounds to me like a mutual admiration relationship that can
go a long way.....Enjoy.......Betsy
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From: grsjr at juno.com (George R Stilwell, Jr.) on 1999.01.17 at 05:39:19(2914)
Jeanne,
I know nothing about tropical aroids. You can put a pix on the IAS
identification page to
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get a positive ID.
Ray
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