incredible dracunculus

From: Stacy Holtzman <sholtzma at sunflower.bio.indiana.edu> on 1999.06.10 at 15:21:52(3422) Hi aroiders, I just saw the most awesome aroid, Dracunculus vulgaris (sp?),I have to obtain it for my garden! I just went to Munchkin Nursery in Southern Indiana, and it has grown there for a number of years as a display plant and was just getting ready to bloom. I missed the bloom, but want to try it for hardiness where I live, as I am just north of this nursery and probably have a similar freeze zone. Could somebody eee me privately about vendors for this plant? I want to get some. Stacy +More Stacy Holtzman Howard Hughes Medical Institute Bloomington, Indiana Z5b

From: Bob Burns <bobburns61 at yahoo.com> on 1999.06.11 at 15:23:07(3423) Stacy-Are you ready to put up with something that stinks to high heaven? The bloom is spectacular, but I'd go back to the nursery and get a whiff, if the thing is still in bloom. Maybe plant it somewhere you can see from a distance! I had people complaining about mine a full sixty feet away. In any case, maybe someone on the list has more than they want, and can part with some! Bob Burns +More --- Stacy Holtzman wrote: > Hi aroiders, > I just saw the most awesome aroid, Dracunculus > vulgaris (sp?),I have to > obtain it for my garden! I just went to Munchkin > Nursery in Southern > Indiana, and it has grown there for a number of > years as a display plant > and was just getting ready to bloom. I missed the > bloom, but want to try > it for hardiness where I live, as I am just north of > this nursery and > probably have a similar freeze zone. > > Could somebody eee me privately about vendors for > this plant? I want to get > some. > > Stacy > > Stacy Holtzman > Howard Hughes Medical Institute > Bloomington, Indiana Z5b > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

From: Doug Burdic <dburdic at presys.com> on 1999.06.11 at 19:29:07(3424) I must have some type of 'Daffodil Mart Odorless' clone, since mine have bloomed two years in a row now and really don't have any detectable odor. Maybe it has something to do with the media they're grown in? I doubt it, but it is puzzling. Now...Helicodiceros...here's a plant whose bloom could literally 'wake the dead'. Take Care, Doug (who is wondering why his Dracunculus flowers are odorously challenged) +More ======================================================================== Bob Burns wrote: > > Stacy-Are you ready to put up with > something that stinks to high heaven? The bloom is > spectacular, but I'd go back to the nursery and get a > whiff, if the thing is still in bloom. Maybe plant it > somewhere you can see from a distance! I had people > complaining about mine a full sixty feet away. > In any case, maybe someone on the list has more > than they want, and can part with some! > Bob Burns

From: Stacy Holtzman <sholtzma at sunflower.bio.indiana.edu> on 1999.06.11 at 19:34:44(3425) Yes, Bob, I am willing to put up with the smells. I just hope that people don't think that it's me vs. a plant in my garden! haha I have had really good personal response to this question of where to get some bulbs; thanks a lot everyone. I looked at the appropriate websites for some nurseries and the prices are very reasonable. One good thing also about the smells, Bob: I could plant these beauties around the perimeter of the five acres I live on and repel the deer. Stacy +More Stacy Holtzman Howard Hughes Medical Institute Bloomington, Indiana Z5b

From: Bob Burns <bobburns61 at yahoo.com> on 1999.06.11 at 20:13:02(3426) Stacy and aroiders; I doubt the Dracunculus would do much as a deer repellent, only staying in bloom a few days out of the year. At our place (in the 'bush' of central GA) only a 15 ft. fence is enough. But be it noted that aroids (of which I've several) don't seem to ever be victims of the deer at all, and most of mine are outside this fence. Does anyone concur, or duspute? Bob Burns- +More _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

From: "Susan Cooper" <SCooper at cooperpower.com> on 1999.06.12 at 02:09:48(3429) Hey, if that is the case, I'll take one too!! Has the list been really quiet lately- or am I not getting all my mail??? Susan Cooper +More Wisconsin, USA zone 5 scooper@cooperpower.com >>> Bob Burns said: (snipped) Stacy-Are you ready to put up with something that stinks to high heaven? The bloom is spectacular, but I'd go back to the nursery and get a whiff, if the thing is still in bloom. In any case, maybe someone on the list has more than they want, and can part with some! Bob Burns ---

From: Neil Carroll <zzamia at hargray.com> on 1999.06.12 at 02:18:52(3431) At 03:13 PM 6/11/99 -0500, you wrote: >Stacy and aroiders; > I doubt the Dracunculus would do much as a deer +More >repellent, only staying in bloom a few days out of the >year. At our place (in the 'bush' of central GA) only >a 15 ft. fence is enough. But be it noted that aroids >(of which I've several) don't seem to ever be victims >of the deer at all, and most of mine are outside this >fence. Does anyone concur, or duspute? > Bob Burns- Being a landscaper on Hilton Head Island, SC, a place with a nationaly known deer problem, I would have to say that most aroids are resistant to deer browsing. But.... they will defanatly eat caladiums. No experience with dracunculus. I'll have to try it on the deer heer. Neil

From: Damian Trownson <DrPaulBear at xtra.co.nz> on 1999.06.12 at 02:23:53(3432) Doug Burdic wrote: > > I must have some type of 'Daffodil Mart Odorless' clone, since mine have > bloomed two years in a row now and really don't have any detectable > odor. Maybe it has something to do with the media they're grown in? I > doubt it, but it is puzzling. Now...Helicodiceros...here's a plant whose > bloom could literally 'wake the dead'. > > Take Care, > > Doug (who is wondering why his Dracunculus flowers are odorously > challenged) +More > > ======================================================================== > > Bob Burns wrote: > > > > Stacy-Are you ready to put up with > > something that stinks to high heaven? The bloom is > > spectacular, but I'd go back to the nursery and get a > > whiff, if the thing is still in bloom. Maybe plant it > > somewhere you can see from a distance! I had people > > complaining about mine a full sixty feet away. > > In any case, maybe someone on the list has more > > than they want, and can part with some! > > Bob Burns Bob I have a large number of Dracunculas growing on my fence lines,last year one of my neighbours rang the local health inspectors,he complained that there was something dead in my place.LOL I never told them what it was .I understand that removal of the pistol will take care of the problem ,in the meantime the place is for sale and I am moving ,with my bulbs to a bigger property ,and no neighbours , regards to all. Paul in New Zealand ,mid winter and aroids shooting .

From: MJ Hatfield <oneota at ames.net> on 1999.06.15 at 02:38:42(3433) Bob, While hiking in the woods of NE Iowa three weeks ago, I noted that about 1/4 of the Arisaema triphyllum blossoms were snipped off at the base of the spadix. I just "assumed" that deer (heavily populated area) did the snipping. Perhaps not. +More MJ Hatfield

From: Rand Nicholson <writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 1999.06.15 at 02:50:21(3436) Hi All: >At 03:13 PM 6/11/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Stacy and aroiders; +More >> I doubt the Dracunculus would do much as a deer >>repellent, only staying in bloom a few days out of the >>year. At our place (in the 'bush' of central GA) only >>a 15 ft. fence is enough. But be it noted that aroids >>(of which I've several) don't seem to ever be victims >>of the deer at all, and most of mine are outside this >>fence. Does anyone concur, or duspute? >> Bob Burns- > > >Being a landscaper on Hilton Head Island, SC, a place with a nationaly >known deer problem, I would have to say that most aroids are resistant to >deer browsing. But.... they will defanatly eat caladiums. No experience >with dracunculus. I'll have to try it on the deer heer. > >Neil I say it again: Deer will avoid plants treated with sulphur powder. Cats avoid areas when the stuff is dusted on the soil. Cheap. Easy. Rand

From: StellrJ at aol.com on 1999.06.15 at 02:56:58(3438) In a message dated 6/11/99, 1:12:53 PM, aroid-l@mobot.org writes: << But be it noted that aroids (of which I've several) don't seem to ever be victims +More of the deer at all, and most of mine are outside this fence. Does anyone concur, or duspute?>> For the most part, I concur. The only time I have seen our native Lysichitum americanus chewed up by deer was on an island with too many deer, where everything except stinging nettle was heavily browsed and still the deer looked bony. (English holly looked as if it had been repeatedly sheared.) So unless you live on a similar island, I suspect deer will not mess with your aroids.

From: Stacy Holtzman <sholtzma at sunflower.bio.indiana.edu> on 1999.06.15 at 03:13:33(3443) Bob, None of my aroids in the garden are ever bothered by anything, including deer. Stacy +More Stacy Holtzman Howard Hughes Medical Institute Bloomington, Indiana Z5b

From: Genny38 at webtv.net (Genny'38) on 1999.06.16 at 13:54:07(3444) Hello Everybody: I joined this list to learn more about these plants. So far I have been learning a lot, and sometimes I laugh about the deer problem....I am from Guadalajara, Mexico, Spanish speaking and trying my best in English. So this is a question for all of you! I was given a couple of years ago, a bulb (redish brown) with no name or instructions in how to care for it....I found myself a pot to put it, but to my surprise the bulb was growing so fast...and suddenly gave me the most beautiful but strange looking flower, with a strange smell also, (not to stinky) I had a parade of relatives and neighbors wanting to see "My master piece".....I consulted gardening books in Spanish with no result....so I said to myself, "one day I will find out, what's the name of my bulb"....and I guess after to much hesitation in my side, and learning first to deal with this electronic box, I found this list, and here I am....asking this question to people that knows so much about this matter. Also I would like to know where can I buy bulbs, seeds in USA.... not delivered to Mexico ofcourse, but to a California (USA) address of a friend of mine, that has told me to use it for my "plant adventure" I sincerely thank all of you in advance..... Genny, from Guadalajara, Mexico

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