Shipping between US and Canada

From: "Carlo A. Balistrieri" <cabalist at facstaff.wisc.edu> on 1997.02.12 at 03:38:19(333) There is a new certification program being put into place in the United States (by APHIS) and Canada (AAFC) that will allow certified growers in each country to ship certain "low-risk" plants to the other country without the need for phytosanitary certificate to accompany each shipment. Certified operations will be issued a number (to appear on labels) which will take the place of the phyto. I don't have complete information yet and am not sure whether the program is limited to greenhouse grown plants (defined as indoor foliage, flowering plants and bedding plants) but it's a step in the right direction. Contact your local APHIS or AAFC office for additional details. Carlo +More Carlo A. Balistrieri, J.D. Email: CABalist@facstaff.wisc.edu P.O. Box 327 Ashippun, WI 53003-0327 U.S.A. Voice: 414.569.1902 Telefax: same number, please call ahead.

From: Hermine Stover <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 1997.02.12 at 04:04:07(336) At 09:38 PM 2/11/97 -0600, Carlo A. Balistrieri wrote: >There is a new certification program being put into place in the United >States (by APHIS) and Canada (AAFC) that will allow certified growers in >each country to ship certain "low-risk" plants to the other country without >the need for phytosanitary certificate to accompany each shipment. Certified >operations will be issued a number (to appear on labels) which will take the >place of the phyto. > >I don't have complete information yet and am not sure whether the program is >limited to greenhouse grown plants (defined as indoor foliage, flowering >plants and bedding plants) but it's a step in the right direction. Contact >your local APHIS or AAFC office for additional details. > >Carlo +More > >Carlo A. Balistrieri, J.D. Email: CABalist@facstaff.wisc.edu >P.O. Box 327 >Ashippun, WI 53003-0327 >U.S.A. >Voice: 414.569.1902 Telefax: same number, please call ahead. > >To me, the nuttiest regulations between countries and/or states is when they have contiguous borders and the same pests on either side of this "imaginary" dividing line. That is when I want to perform my own acts of civil disobedience. hermine@endangeredsepcies.com > >

From: Diane Whitehead <ua024 at freenet.victoria.bc.ca> on 1997.02.13 at 03:13:11(347) Currently we are allowed to import "houseplants' from the US to Canada without a phyto. I thought this would be great for when I travel in the warm south. I planned to buy the sorts of plants that grow outside in San Diego but must spend winters in a conservatory in Canada. I found that was the wrong interpretation, unfortunately. What they mean by houseplants are things that must be grown in greenhouses in their place of origin. Maybe just tropicals, then. And maybe the new regulations will just apply to places like Monrovia that ship semi-trailer loads of plants to us. (an aside: when I travelled in the Carolinas last year, I was shocked to see the familiar big M hangtags on most of the plants in the garden centres - California has a big outreach) But, I will certainly check to see if this will also apply to garden tourists who like to choose their own plants. Thanks, Carlo.

From: Hermine Stover <hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 1997.02.13 at 15:06:51(350) At 09:13 PM 2/12/97 -0600, Diane Whitehead wrote: >Currently we are allowed to import "houseplants' from the US to Canada >without a phyto. I thought this would be great for when I travel in the >warm south. I planned to buy the sorts of plants that grow outside in >San Diego but must spend winters in a conservatory in Canada. I found >that was the wrong interpretation, unfortunately. What they mean by >houseplants are things that must be grown in greenhouses in their place >of origin. Maybe just tropicals, then. And maybe the new regulations >will just apply to places like Monrovia that ship semi-trailer loads of >plants to us. (an aside: when I travelled in the Carolinas last year, I >was shocked to see the familiar big M hangtags on most of the plants in >the garden centres - California has a big outreach) > >But, I will certainly check to see if this will also apply to garden >tourists who like to choose their own plants. Thanks, Carlo. > > >Last time I shipped to canada my ag inspector laughingly told me that canada lived in phytosanitary terror of brown snails which NEVER CROSS THE BORDER on their own! Mostly those rules were written about comanies like Monrovia who regularly source other nurseries with fleets of tucks, where physical checking of each plant is impossible. For folks like me, who even commerciall speaking, seldom ship more than a big big parcel, and physical checking is easy, the amount of poking and prodding at each end...statee inspection of the nursery several times a year, plus that plant-by-plant check at this end for the phyto...seems excessive. But I would never go round it because I have a feeling that way leads to disaster. hermine@endangeredspecies.com

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