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  Anthurium splendidum
From: "Jay Vannini" interbnk at infovia.com.gt> on 2000.03.30 at 16:12:14(4280)
Question to those "in the know" - I have been experimenting with different
temperature regimens and mediums for a couple of Anthurium splendidum (sl)
that I have for two years now, and still haven't obtained any joy from these
little buggers. Checked locality data for collections on the Tropicos
database last week and noted that they have been collected at low elevations
in the Choco. This suggests hot, extremely wet culture - something I haven't
tried yet. Also saw that Selby's are doing well under "warm" conditions. Any
suggestions, folks?

From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.03.30 at 19:28:45(4282)
> Question to those "in the know" - I have been experimenting with different
> temperature regimens and mediums for a couple of Anthurium splendidum (sl)
> that I have for two years now, and still haven't obtained any joy from
these
> little buggers. Checked locality data for collections on the Tropicos
> database last week and noted that they have been collected at low
elevations
> in the Choco. This suggests hot, extremely wet culture - something I
haven't
> tried yet. Also saw that Selby's are doing well under "warm" conditions.
Any
> suggestions, folks?
>

These plants require very humid conditions. The phrase "extremely wet
culture" may be misleading....these are not aquatic plants. The trick is
keeping as high humidity as possible without rotting the plant. Fog not mist
would be very helpful. A 'fog chamber' on a smaller scale would be helpful.
These plants should be treated like epiphytes as to their potting mix and
container. A slated basket with an extremly fast draining mix should be a
start. It is still not likely that this plant will do well without constant
high ( 80% +) humidity.

This is not the plant of Exotica or the front cover a a long ago Aroideana.
Correct?

Neil

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.30 at 20:02:55(4286)
Remember the thing we used to call Splendidum is no longer Splendidum. The
low altitude thing from the Choco is a bitch to grow and likes to be in a
terrarium because it grows along a river with lots of humidity. The beautiful
thing we knew as Splendidum is from Colombia but no one knows where. It too
can be stinky to grow, but it is easier than the true "Splendidum." The one
that Rick Cirino brought back from the Choco and I later found the same place
is really difficult to grow and it is now known as the true Splendidum. Rick
did the writeup about this one and the change in name. You might like to
contact him.

Betsy Feuerstein

From: herm hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.03.31 at 13:54:03(4288)
At 08:02 PM 03/30/2000 , Betsytrips@aol.com wrote:
>Remember the thing we used to call Splendidum is no longer Splendidum. The
>low altitude thing from the Choco is a bitch to grow and likes to be in a
>terrarium because it grows along a river with lots of humidity. The beautiful
>thing we knew as Splendidum is from Colombia but no one knows where. It too
>can be stinky to grow, but it is easier than the true "Splendidum." The one
>that Rick Cirino brought back from the Choco and I later found the same place
>is really difficult to grow and it is now known as the true Splendidum. Rick
>did the writeup about this one and the change in name. You might like to
>contact him.

ALSO Rick's plants look GORGEOUS no matter what he says about how difficult
they are. like i have never seen. you could keel over.

hermine

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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.03.31 at 13:55:22(4290)
Jay,

The plant you are calling Anthurium splendidum is now called A. luxurians, I
believe. Betsy mentioned in her message about two different species called A.
splendidum. The ones you saw at Selby are now correctly called A. luxurians
(these have very dark glossy bullate leaves and are extremely hard to grow
without very high humidity and warm conditions year round). The species now
correctly called A. splendidum was once mistakenly called A. corrugatum...but
I may be wrong about this point. Mixed up with this is the true Anthurium
corrugatum and the plant once called A. corrugatum but now called A.
splendidum. Are we are totally confused yet???

I hope someone clears up this issue and correct any mistakes I might have
made here, because I am still not certain about the way these species have
been sorted out.

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From: Denis denis at skg.com> on 2000.03.31 at 13:56:07(4292)
Notes as to what is A. splendidum:

Tom Croat told me that there was a taxanomic readjustment to the names we are
using for several different species which look very similar. Some California
collector had collected the "true" A. splendidum in a sandy stream (semi moist)
bed. This variety really needs the high humidity, it does best in a humidity
tent. I know cause I killed the piece that I had because I could not keep it
comfortable on my benches. Croat said the species we were calling "A.
spledidum"

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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.03.31 at 20:07:38(4293)
> Jay,
>
> The plant you are calling Anthurium splendidum is now called A. luxurians,
I
> believe. Betsy mentioned in her message about two different species called
A.
> splendidum. The ones you saw at Selby are now correctly called A.
luxurians
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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.31 at 20:09:14(4294)
Rick Cirino in Calif collected what is now called A. Splendidum first and
then I collected it shortly thereafter. It is from along a stream and it
never has gotten terribly large. A. luxuriens, what we used to call A.
Splendidum, I will take bets grows in a similar type situation because there
is one that I collected low altitude near Buena Ventura, Columbia. SA that
looks quite similar. The one I collected, and has been collected before me,
is not as distinctly marked, but similar. All of the beautiful little
bastards are absolute pains to grow until you find the secret that fits your
set of circumstances. Perhaps prayer helps. The real Splendidum, I have had
success growing in a terrarium under lights. A. luxuriens I have had luck
with that way also, but I have seen this one grown well from under mist.
Scott Hyndman had one in the IAS show years ago that he had grown and it was
beautiful. You might ask him how he grew it. I keep my parts in a terrarium
which to most is not ideal.

Good luck!
Betsy

From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.31 at 20:10:08(4295)
In a message dated 3/31/00 3:54:37 PM Central Standard Time,
hermine@endangeredspecies.com writes:

<< ALSO Rick's plants look GORGEOUS no matter what he says about how difficult

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.03.31 at 20:10:28(4296)
Donna,

The plant Rick collected in the Choco is the good named Splendidum. The
gorgeous thing we love and has been around since found in a collection if
Florida years ago is luxuriens. The source of this one died with the
collector many years ago. Dewey could add to this one since he was in on the
deal. Maybe we can entice him to tell us the neat story of the deal. A.
corrugatum is a high altitude thing usually, but there is a low altitude one
that some of you have in Florida and Banta has, and Dewey has, and a few
others including Fairchild. The true splendidum that Rick found looks like a
miniature corrugatum with that rough texture, but it is very tender to say
the least.

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From: herm hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.04.01 at 07:12:38(4301)
>
>That must be the new greenhouse he has built or perhaps the mist system of
>Huntingdon Botanic. Rick keeps things in 150% humidity and I might imagine
>that would be just about perfect for a low altitude, streambed, tropical
>bastardly beautiful anthurium. Give the man credit where due. He is a good
>grower.
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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.04.01 at 20:18:38(4308)
In a message dated 3/31/00 10:07:58 PM Central Standard Time,
zzamia@hargray.com writes:

<< Who is the author of A. luxurians and when was it described. >>

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.04.01 at 20:21:02(4309)
In a message dated 4/1/00 9:19:52 AM Central Standard Time,
hermine@endangeredspecies.com writes:

<< but i will be dammed before i give him any credit. i think i will call him

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From: herm hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.04.02 at 07:12:28(4312)
At 08:21 PM 04/01/2000 , Betsytrips@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 4/1/00 9:19:52 AM Central Standard Time,
>hermine@endangeredspecies.com writes:
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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.04.02 at 07:59:55(4316)
Hey, Hemine tell him that Neil say's he should get a computer and get on
line because people are talking about him.

Neil

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From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.04.02 at 11:22:43(4318)
Rick get online? Get a grip or get a life. I do not think Rick finds our
banter very down the alley he wants to go. He is too busy playing tennis, his
plants, his plants, his plants, and then perhaps girls.

I do agree, he would be a great addition to the effort, but all to his own.
Look, it took Rick a century to get a fax so maybe in ten years he will
contemplate such. Now, if he felt he could make a bundle of dinero on it, he
might consider such.

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From: herm hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2000.04.02 at 12:17:48(4322)
At 11:22 AM 04/02/2000 , Betsytrips@aol.com wrote:
>Rick get online? Get a grip or get a life. I do not think Rick finds our
>banter very down the alley he wants to go. He is too busy playing tennis, his
>plants, his plants, his plants, and then perhaps girls.

Rick ONLINE? oh i just hurt myself laughing. tennis, wimmins and plants. i
picked him for a tennis player becuz he has those nice legs.

I am just amazed he is not dead of solar radiation to his personal skin is all.

This is it. i am phoning him now.

hermine

From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.04.02 at 17:15:42(4325)
In a message dated 4/2/00 2:18:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
hermine@endangeredspecies.com writes:

<< i am phoning him now. >>

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