A. wentii, and pothos blooms

From: toeric toeric at ev1.net> on 2000.04.16 at 22:19:51(4386) Heyowdy all. I just bought an Alocasia called A. wentii. I can't seem to find any information on this species. Does anyone know anything about it like what its full size will be and what conditions it likes? Anything would be helpful. Thanks ahead of time. Now I have a question I have always wondered about. My whole life my mother had pothos ivies (Epipremnum aureum or Scindapsus areus) around the house and in my adult life I have always kept them around my house. To this day I have never seen one bloom. Do they bloom? I have grown them under all kinds of conditions of course. My mother even has one now growing in almost full sun near the Houston area!!! Anyone not from here let me just say that plants that are recommended for full sun we grow in part shade in the Houston area because the heat combined with the sun is just too intense for most plants (and people too!) Back to my question. Has anyone seen one bloom? Are there any pictures of the bloom on the web? If you have seen one bloom what conditions was it under. Of course I am not interested in pothos itself really; I just grow it as filler around the house and out on the porch but it has just bugged me that it is such a common plant and yet I have never had or seen it bloom. Eric

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2000.04.17 at 01:33:35(4388) Dear Eric, Your 'pothos' is a baby! Here in Florida it often 'escapes', and will grow up huge pine trees, rapidly transforming itself from the piddling little vine to a HUGE, monsterous climber, climbing to over 30 ft high, covering the trunk with it`s beautiful leaves, its stem up to 3" in dia., its leaves 3ft x 20 "!!! At this stage they do bloom, I was present at the late and great Monroe Birdsey`s home in Miami and asssisted Peter Boyce of Key Gardens in collecting a bloom from a HUGE one growing up the trunk of a huge tree! Cheers, Julius +More >Heyowdy all. I just bought an Alocasia called A. wentii. I can't seem to find any information on this species. Does anyone know anything about it like what its full size will be and what conditions it likes? Anything would be helpful. Thanks ahead of time. Now I have a question I have always wondered about. My whole life my mother had pothos ivies (Epipremnum aureum or Scindapsus areus) around the house and in my adult life I have always kept them around my house. To this day I have never seen one bloom. Do they bloom? I have grown them under all kinds of conditions of course. My mother even has one now growing in almost full sun near the Houston area!!! Anyone not from here let me just say that plants that are recommended for full sun we grow in part shade in the Houston area because the heat combined with the sun is just too intense for most plants (and people too!) Back to my question. Has anyone seen one bloom? Are there any pictures of the bloom on the web? If you have seen one bloom what conditions was it under. Of course I am not interested in pothos itself really; I just grow it as filler around the house and out on the porch but it has just bugged me that it is such a common plant and yet I have never had or seen it bloom. Eric

From: toeric toeric at ev1.net> on 2000.04.17 at 23:38:29(4389) Wow, wish I could see that! You must be right, but I do have one that has leaves about two foot. I have never been able to figure out how to get them to grow bigger. Since I use them for filler and to add a tropical look to my porch they are in shade so there leaves stay the same size or each one is smaller than the last. They must like a good bit of light maybe even some direct sun? So anyone know any thing about my other question on Alocasia wentii? What size will it get and what growing conditions does it like. Thanks y'all. Eric +More At 08:33 PM 4/16/00 -0500, you wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: toeric >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Date: Sunday, April 16, 2000 6:20 PM >Subject: A. wentii, and pothos blooms > > > > >Dear Eric, > >Your 'pothos' is a baby! Here in Florida it often 'escapes', and will grow >up huge pine trees, rapidly transforming itself from the piddling little >vine to a HUGE, monsterous climber, climbing to over 30 ft high, covering >the trunk with it`s beautiful leaves, its stem up to 3" in dia., its leaves >3ft x 20 "!!! At this stage they do bloom, I was present at the late and >great Monroe Birdsey`s home in Miami and asssisted Peter Boyce of Key >Gardens in collecting a bloom from a HUGE one growing up the trunk of a huge >tree! > >Cheers, > >Julius

From: "Peter Boyce" Boyce at pothos.demon.co.uk> on 2000.04.17 at 23:41:21(4390) Eric Epipremnum aureum very seldom flowers in cultivation. To my knowledge there are four recorded flowerings. Pete +More ps the giant that Julius and I collected in Monroe's garden was the related Amydrium zippellianum.

From: Aroideae at aol.com on 2000.04.18 at 02:55:41(4391) dear peter, I do believe i have Epipremnum aureum in my yard near Tampa, FL and it did indeed flower when quite large. This is the plant that is always called 'golden pothos' here. In some winters, it's quite a bit colder here than in miami so i was quite surprised to see it bloom! It's not a 'recorded sighting', so i guess i'll have to send you a pickled inflorescence next time it flowers. +More lynn << Eric Epipremnum aureum very seldom flowers in cultivation. To my knowledge there are four recorded flowerings. Pete ps the giant that Julius and I collected in Monroe's garden was the related Amydrium zippellianum. >>

From: "Peter Boyce" Boyce at pothos.demon.co.uk> on 2000.04.18 at 22:25:42(4392) Lynn FANTASTIC - did you get any photos? Pete

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2000.04.18 at 22:27:33(4393) Dear Pete, Yes, I now recall that the one we collected did not have the var. colored leaves! However, I believe that Epipremnum does flower more commonly than the record indicates, but has to be allowed to grow to adult size first, which may take several years. The ones that I`ve seen in bloom here in W.P.B., Florida have been allowed to grow 'wild' up the trunks of huge native pine trees, where high up the stems seem to grow away from the tree trunk and sort of cascade downwards, and it is near the ends of these falling shoots that I have seen blooms, but have thought how difficult it would be to collect them as they are so high up! I will keep my eyes open for an opportunity to collect a couple IF the opportunity was to present itself in the future. Cheers, Julius +More >Eric Epipremnum aureum very seldom flowers in cultivation. To my knowledge there are four recorded flowerings. Pete ps the giant that Julius and I collected in Monroe's garden was the related Amydrium zippellianum.<

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2000.04.18 at 22:28:10(4394) Dear Eric, See my letter to the list in answer to Pete`s, and yes, they seem to require lots of light, sun, TIME, and space to grow to adults and then to bloom. Sounds like in your situation they do not get these 'needs', a smaller leaf may be the plant wanting to go into the 'runner' stage where it produces these runners with small, cordate leaves which 'search' for a suitable tree to climb! This is the stage in which they are sold in dept. stores! According to Aroideana Vol. 7, A. wentii may be from N. Guinea, and the almost peltate leaves are 18-20" long by 9-10" wide, bronze-green with lighter midrib and veins. It is speculated that the plant sold as A. 'wentii' may be a hybrid involving A. cuprea. That`s all that I could glean from the article, maybe someone else will tell you how to best grow it. Cheers, Julius +More ju-bo@msn.com > Wow, wish I could see that! You must be right, but I do have one that has leaves about two foot. I have never been able to figure out how to get them to grow bigger. Since I use them for filler and to add a tropical look to my porch they are in shade so there leaves stay the same size or each one is smaller than the last. They must like a good bit of light maybe even some direct sun? So anyone know any thing about my other question on Alocasia wentii? What size will it get and what growing conditions does it like. Thanks y'all. Eric< At 08:33 PM 4/16/00 -0500, you wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: toeric >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Date: Sunday, April 16, 2000 6:20 PM >Subject: A. wentii, and pothos blooms > > > > >Dear Eric, > >Your 'pothos' is a baby! Here in Florida it often 'escapes', and will grow >up huge pine trees, rapidly transforming itself from the piddling little >vine to a HUGE, monsterous climber, climbing to over 30 ft high, covering >the trunk with it`s beautiful leaves, its stem up to 3" in dia., its leaves >3ft x 20 "!!! At this stage they do bloom, I was present at the late and >great Monroe Birdsey`s home in Miami and asssisted Peter Boyce of Key >Gardens in collecting a bloom from a HUGE one growing up the trunk of a huge >tree! > >Cheers, > >Julius

From: Aroideae at aol.com on 2000.04.19 at 23:37:39(4400) hello peter, Re Epipremnum aureum: unfortunately, i didn't bother to photograph it. At the time, I wasn't aware that this was an unusual event The plants are ubiquitous here in Florida!! NOW i know and will try to take photos if i see it in flower again, but, as Julius said in his posting, it flowers quite high in the trees. My plant was growing on a live oak. I'll need a telephoto lens!! I'll try to get a pickled infl. to you also. Lynn +More << Lynn FANTASTIC - did you get any photos? Pete >>

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