pollinating Anth veitchii ?
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From: "Michael Pascall" mpascall at eisa.net.au> on 2000.05.07 at 17:31:07(4539)
I have been asked by some one in South Africa , how do you get seed to set
on Anthurium veitchii ?
He has two plants, maybe the only 2 in Sth. Africa, and would love to be
able to grow some seedlings to distribute.
Michael Pascall
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From: plantnut at macconnect.com (plantnut) on 2000.05.07 at 20:05:52(4540)
I wish him good fortune....
But, I know of only two times that A., veitchii has been polinated by A.
veitchii... Once in Rome about 10 years ago and once at Selby a few years
ago....
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There have been tons of hybrids made.... But... Veitchii to veitchii....
No, or seldom.
Dewey
>I have been asked by some one in South Africa , how do you get seed to set
>on Anthurium veitchii ?
>He has two plants, maybe the only 2 in Sth. Africa, and would love to be
>able to grow some seedlings to distribute.
>Michael Pascall
Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
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From: SelbyHort at aol.com on 2000.05.08 at 02:23:15(4542)
In regards to Michael's request for info about pollinating Anthurium
veitchii: We got seed on our A. veitchii with no special scientific
techiques. I was told that it is very unusual to get seed set on this species
by several people who came through and saw all our seedlings. There was even
a request that we write up a paper about our pollination procedure. I did not
do the pollination, but when I asked our horticulturist, she just shrugged
and said she just did a "hand job" on the inflorescence by gathering pollen
(this species really produces a ton of pollen) from one inflorescence in the
palm of her hand and then she slathered the pollen onto the sticky receptive
stigmas of another infloresence on a different plant. We had about three or
four different clones of A. veitchii at the time, which we had acquired as
seedlings from Colombia. I don't think she anticipated that her "technique"
would be so successful, but we got incredible seed set. We later distributed
the seedlings to our members in the fall of 1998, most of whom did not even
take these wonderful plants so we had many left over (there is no accounting
for taste). We distributed the remaining seedlings through Denis Cathcart at
Tropiflora, who told us that the Disney people from Animal Kingdom swooped in
and scarfed them all up in one buying binge. We kept about 4-5 of the
seedling batch and one of these was auctioned at the IAS annual show and sale
last September.
Donna Atwood
Selby Gardens
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Sarasota, Florida 34236
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<< I have been asked by some one in South Africa , how do you get seed to set
on Anthurium veitchii ?
He has two plants, maybe the only 2 in Sth. Africa, and would love to be
able to grow some seedlings to distribute.
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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.05.09 at 01:30:47(4545)
> In regards to Michael's request for info about pollinating Anthurium
> veitchii: We got seed on our A. veitchii with no special scientific
> techiques. I was told that it is very unusual to get seed set on this
species
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> by several people who came through and saw all our seedlings.
I would be very interested to know what the source of the problems are in
pollinating A. veitchii.
I have only attempted a pollination on A. veitchii once......the pollen
parent was A. tilarenense and
I got very good seed set. ( the seed has now germinated).
Neil
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From: Greggy6392 at aol.com on 2000.05.09 at 01:36:12(4551)
I am surprised that A. veitchii is seeming to cause problems selfing, I
(another gardener), like Selby used the technique of rubbing pollen from the
upper half of the inflorescence to the lower half of the spadix using
fingers, on the same plant (as we only had one) and had a good fruit set.
This was also about 2 years ago and it has produced some nice seedlings. The
only thing I can think of other than beginners luck is that I remember being
told that the spadix heats up when receptive and I checked it each day. It
did indeed heat up significantly one day and this is when I carried out the
pollination.
Hope this helps,
Alan Gregg
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Swansea Botanical Complex
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From: pmdes at iafrica.com on 2000.05.09 at 01:57:51(4553)
Thank you for everybodies input.
I actually bought 4 plants from Tropiflora about a year ago. 3 are doing
very well here and are very showy as well. I have 2 plants and a friend had
one, one went to paradise.
What clone was that that was distributed via Tropiflora?
I am a newcomer in aroids.
I assume that the flower is receptive before pollen starts to show. What is
the best time to pollinate mornig or evening? I have not yet ever felt the
flower being sticky ( I have not really checked it out so far). I would
appreciate if somebody could elaborate on timeing a bit more.
Thank You.
Peter
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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.05.09 at 18:21:46(4554)
> I am surprised that A. veitchii is seeming to cause problems selfing, I
> (another gardener), like Selby used the technique of rubbing pollen from
the
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> upper half of the inflorescence to the lower half of the spadix using
> fingers, on the same plant (as we only had one) and had a good fruit set.
You did? I find this hard to beleive. When pollen is showing on the spadix
of the inflorescence, that inflorescence is past its time to receive pollen.
This is Anhurium's way of preventing self-pollination. So these seeds you
got, are they viable? Selby did not use the technique you discribe but had 4
clones on hand thus increasing the liklyhood that an inflorescence would be
secreting stigmatic fluid at the same time ANOTHER inflorescence was
shedding pollen. These two events (stigmatic fluid and pollen) DO NOT occur
on the same inflorescence at the same time.
Neil
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From: Greggy6392 at aol.com on 2000.05.15 at 22:14:00(4581)
Apologies for the delay in replying to Neil's comments. I thought I would
check a few facts before replying as they started putting a few doubts into
my mind (being a newcomer to aroids had I misidentifed the plant ?, had I
miscounted the number of plants we had). Well, after checking I am 99%
certain I am right. The plants that were produced from the pollination were
distributed and after checking with everyone am assured that they are indeed
A. veitchii. And the point I am most certain about is that we definitely
only had one plant (not various clones as was the case with MSBG). Where I
think the misunderstanding has occurred is that the plant is an old mature
plant and as such produces several inflorescences when blooming. Surely
pollen produced on one spadix could be ready at a time when the flowers are
receptive on another. Neil may have thought there was only one inflorescence
in which case I understand his doubts.
Alan
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Swansea Botanical Complex
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From: Neil Carroll zzamia at hargray.com> on 2000.05.16 at 02:02:11(4583)
Surely
> pollen produced on one spadix could be ready at a time when the flowers
are
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> receptive on another. Neil may have thought there was only one
inflorescence
> in which case I understand his doubts.
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> Alan
> Swansea Botanical Complex
This is much more plausable than your first message. Thanks for setting it
straight.
Neil
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