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  callas, Z. aethiopica in particular
From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2000.11.10 at 15:25:07(5667)

'Tis a puzzlement! I'm growing Z. 'Green Goddess' and Z 'Marshmallow'
but I haven't had the latter long enough to comment on it. The former is
a yawn for me.
I haven't found Z. aethiopica 'Childsiana' or 'Pink Mist' yet. But I
have what is supposed to be
Z. a. 'Hercules Brother' which I got from Dan Levin. But, the plants I

From: Steve Marak samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 2000.11.10 at 16:19:16(5671)

I was about to mention Z. a. 'Hercules' myself; several of us obtained
plants a year or so back (I'm at work, can't check the date) in a group
order. I see you mention 'Hercules Brother' - is that the correct name for
this cultivar, or another? And what is the description you have for it?

So far my only experience with it is that it does seem more robust that
the usual Z. a. It hasn't reached anything like the exceptional size it's
said to be capable of, but that could be either youth or my zone 6
conditions. I generally leave all Zantedeschias outdoors here, and they
seem quite hardy (Z. rehmannii is a bit iffy), but I did bring a couple in
this year. As I feared, it looks like they will remain in active growth
and the growth will be weak because of the lower light levels.

The best here are about any of the large yellow-flowered hybrids. They
come up when the weather warms up, flower well, are well-behaved about
going dormant in the fall, and never try to resume growth during a warm
spell in January.

If you do find sources of any of the other species, please count me as


From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2000.11.10 at 20:27:18(5672)

I looked up the notes and it was called 'Hercules Brother' because Dan
wasn't positive that it was 'Hercules'. I was hoping for a 6' specimen,
would settle for 4', but actually got 1.5'.

I'll keep you in mind if I find sources for the species. I'd rather grow
the species than the hybrids,
but I must admit the ones we got from Oregon Bulbs are spectacular.

All of my Zantedeschia are growing outdoors (N. Carolina) and, except for
aethiopica insisting
on growing in late fall/early winter, I've had no problems. They even
seem to thrive in the heavy
NC clay.

From: Al Wootten awootten at NRAO.EDU> on 2000.11.11 at 19:09:09(5673)
George R Stilwell, Jr. writes:
> I looked up the notes and it was called 'Hercules Brother' because Dan
> wasn't positive that it was 'Hercules'. I was hoping for a 6' specimen,
> would settle for 4', but actually got 1.5'.
I was among those getting a 'Hercules' a few years back. I wasn't sure it
would do well outside so I kept it with my orchids the first year. It just
got smaller and smaller. I guess it wanted more light than the fluorescents
produced. Now it is outside by the Chesapeake and seems to
be surviving but is still in the process of coming back--about a foot tall
I guess. In the bed with it are a couple of Callas which are doing
spectacularly well. The soil in Deltaville is very sandy.

Clear skies,

From: Dan Levin levin at pixar.com> on 2000.11.11 at 19:10:15(5675)

The Z.a. 'Hercules' (or 'Hercules Brother') were acquired directly from Western Hills
Nursery, in Occidental Calif. Since I was the closest list member (60 miles), I bought
out their stock and did the distribution. However that quest really began in search of
Z.a. 'Hercules' described as "gigantic in stature (6 ft.+) with white spotted leaves"; a plant
described in the records of Strybing over in San Francisco; and credited to the founders
of Western Hills who unfortunately are no longer around to shed any light on the matter.

I was promised at the time by the current owners of Western Hills their plain leaved plants
were in fact 'Hercules'- but without spotting. However I seriously suspect they goofed in
their labeling somewhere along the line and we all ended up with generic aethiopica or
perhaps some other selection. This initial doubt led to Ray tentatively penning the title
Z.a. 'Hercules Brother' here on aroid_L I believe.

From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2000.11.14 at 03:55:24(5681)
Dan, Ray:

Okay, let see if I can add two cents worth to the zantedeschia aethiopica
fray. The plant that Dan sent was solid green, but seems to be larger than
our typical Z. aethiopica.

When we visited San Francisco, a friend had a row of Z. aethiopica named
Z. White Giant' that had foliage to 3' tall, speckled, and typical Z.
aethiopica flowers to 7' tall. We were able to aquire this plant, which
will be listed in our 2001 catalog.

We later aquired another plant at Strybing Botanical Garden named Z.
'Hercules'. The leaves are much larger than our Z. White Giant', but they
have only been in the ground here for two years. We have not started to
propagate Z. 'Herculues' yet, but probably will do so next year. For us
Z. aethiopica gets burned back in the winter, but starts growing again at
each warm spell. It flowers heaviest in spring, sporadically in summer,
then again in fall.

Plantsman Sean Hogan of Portland tells me that he found a giant Z.
aethiopica seedling when he was curator at Berkley Botanic Gardens in CA.
More than likely, his plant is one of these two giants, but as of now, we
do not know which one. I hope this helps.

Tony Avent

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