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From: rrh at genesis.nred.ma.us (Roy Herold) on 1997.01.03 at 03:21:24(40)
Well, here we are in the middle of winter in Zone 5, and you would think
there couldn't be anything happening outside that relates to aroids. Wrong!
Last Sunday (12/29) was a bit on the warm side, up into the forties (F),
but in general our nighttime temps have been in the teens and twenties. I
was walking through the garden picking up debris, and came across a big
Arisaema triphyllum seed head laying on the ground. I picked it up and the
bottom was swarming with ants, and the fleshy part of some of the fruits
had been eaten away. Strange-- maybe it had fallen on top of a nest, and
the warm weather had inspired them to come out. About 20 feet away was
another seed head on the ground-- same thing, it was covered with ants.
I had heard that arisaema seeds were distributed by ants, and had found
them working on ripe seed heads in late summer/early fall. But I certainly
didn't expect to find them doing it in mid-winter, and to have gone some
distance from their nests in cold weather to find the seeds. There must be
something pretty potent in the fruit that attracts them.
Any other aroid/ant experiences out there?
--Roy Herold
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North Reading, MA

From: Floral Architecture <floralartistry2000 at yahoo.com> on 2004.08.29 at 19:05:07(12094)
Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in the
garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10 colonies
in various locations in my pots. They get a little
testy when I water. I always walk away from the garden
felling like I am covered in them. I would like to try
a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if the
ants would be attracted to them at all.
If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
arrangements.
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From: "Tropicals" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.08.29 at 22:26:48(12103)
John:
We recommend bifenthrin (hmm, spelling) aka Talstar, which is required by
our Department of Agriculture when exporting plants within and out of the
state of Florida; and clear restriction to AZ, CA, HI and LA. It is gentle
enough to spray delicate young foliage, yes aroids; yet strong enough for
even the nastiest of pests.
Those restricted states are no longer accepting FEES for exceptions for
many, primarily the noxious species list, but not exclusively. They are
virtually restricting all plant / plant parts from movement into their
states; but we can all see they do not restrict what they export. Hmm. As
mentioned we know what the asian scale and other pests have done through
careless importation / exportation; we owe it to our plant recipients and
ourselves to impose proper respect and plant etiquette.
Good luck; if that does not work, there are other solutions.
Bill and Christian
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www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
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On Behalf Of Floral Architecture
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:05 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Ants
Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in the
garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10 colonies
in various locations in my pots. They get a little
testy when I water. I always walk away from the garden
felling like I am covered in them. I would like to try
a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if the
ants would be attracted to them at all.
If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
arrangements.
=====
John Ingram in L.A., CA.
www.floralarchitecture.com check it out
Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com
310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)
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From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.08.29 at 23:31:38(12106)
sarracenia purpurea would be a good one to try, make sure to keep it in its pot though. a few species of drosera might do well too. cover them from frost in teh winter. if all else fails, repot! or, add worms to the pots that have ant nests. not sure if it will do anything, might destroy the nests.
>From: Floral Architecture
>Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
>To: Discussion of aroids
>Subject: [Aroid-l] Ants
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>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in the
>garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10 colonies
>in various locations in my pots. They get a little
>testy when I water. I always walk away from the garden
>felling like I am covered in them. I would like to try
>a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if the
>ants would be attracted to them at all.
>If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
>arrangements.
>
>
>=====
>John Ingram in L.A., CA.
>www.floralarchitecture.com check it out
>Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com
>310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)
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From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.08.30 at 06:12:58(12108)
any chance you have a copy fo this noxious species list?
this is exactly why it is a good idea to ship plants bare root as most do
>From: "Tropicals"
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>Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
>To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
>Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:26:48 -0400
>
>John:
>
>We recommend bifenthrin (hmm, spelling) aka Talstar, which is required by
>our Department of Agriculture when exporting plants within and out of the
>state of Florida; and clear restriction to AZ, CA, HI and LA. It is gentle
>enough to spray delicate young foliage, yes aroids; yet strong enough for
>even the nastiest of pests.
>
>Those restricted states are no longer accepting FEES for exceptions for
>many, primarily the noxious species list, but not exclusively. They are
>virtually restricting all plant / plant parts from movement into their
>states; but we can all see they do not restrict what they export. Hmm. As
>mentioned we know what the asian scale and other pests have done through
>careless importation / exportation; we owe it to our plant recipients and
>ourselves to impose proper respect and plant etiquette.
>
>Good luck; if that does not work, there are other solutions.
>
>Bill and Christian
>Your AlterNative Solutions Team
>www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>Direct to Tropical / Desert Nursery
>http://www.solutionsanalysis.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
>On Behalf Of Floral Architecture
>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:05 PM
>To: Discussion of aroids
>Subject: [Aroid-l] Ants
>
>Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in the
>garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10 colonies
>in various locations in my pots. They get a little
>testy when I water. I always walk away from the garden
>felling like I am covered in them. I would like to try
>a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if the
>ants would be attracted to them at all.
>If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
>arrangements.
>
>
>=====
>John Ingram in L.A., CA.
>www.floralarchitecture.com check it out
>Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com
>310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)
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From: "Tropicals" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.08.30 at 19:36:39(12125)
Yes Danny, one at http://species.enviroweb.org/onoxious.html
Each state and the
USDA and each country develop their own.
Here a federal http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=noxious.cgi
link which has each state below it.
Christian
Your AlterNative
Solutions Team
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From:
aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of danny wilson
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 2:13
AM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
any chance you have a copy fo this noxious species
list?
this is exactly why it is a good idea to ship plants bare root as most
do
>From: "Tropicals"
>Reply-To: Discussion of
aroids
>To: "'Discussion of
aroids'"
>Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
>Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:26:48 -0400
>
>John:
>
>We recommend bifenthrin (hmm, spelling) aka
Talstar, which is required by
>our Department of Agriculture when exporting
plants within and out of the
>state of Florida;
and clear restriction to AZ, CA, HI and LA. It is gentle
>enough to spray delicate young foliage, yes
aroids; yet strong enough for
>even the nastiest of pests.
>
>Those restricted states are no longer accepting
FEES for exceptions for
>many, primarily the noxious species list, but not
exclusively. They are
>virtually restricting all plant / plant parts from
movement into their
>states; but we can all see they do not restrict
what they export. Hmm. As
>mentioned we know what the asian scale and other
pests have done through
>careless importation / exportation; we owe it to
our plant recipients and
>ourselves to impose proper respect and plant
etiquette.
>
>Good luck; if that does not work, there are other
solutions.
>
>Bill and Christian
>Your AlterNative Solutions Team
>www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>Direct to Tropical / Desert Nursery
>http://www.solutionsanalysis.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
>On Behalf Of Floral Architecture
>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:05 PM
>To: Discussion of aroids
>Subject: [Aroid-l] Ants
>
>Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in
the
>garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10
colonies
>in various locations in my pots. They get a little
>testy when I water. I always walk away from the
garden
>felling like I am covered in them. I would like to
try
>a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if
the
>ants would be attracted to them at all.
>If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
>arrangements.
>
>
>=====
>John Ingram in L.A., CA.
>www.floralarchitecture.com check it out
>Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com
>310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call
accordingly. Thank you)
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From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.08.31 at 03:16:39(12128)
thanks, im gonna print off a copy and take it to my bedroom door:)
>From: "Tropicals"
>Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
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>To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
>Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:36:39 -0400
>
>Yes Danny, one at http://species.enviroweb.org/onoxious.html
>
>
>
>Each state and the USDA and each country develop their own.
>
>
>
>Here a federal http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=noxious.cgi
>link which has each state below it.
>
>Christian
>
>
>
>Your AlterNative Solutions Team
>
>www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>
>Direct to Tropical / Desert Nursery
>
>http://www.solutionsanalysis.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
>
> _____
>
>From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
>On Behalf Of danny wilson
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 2:13 AM
>To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
>Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
>
>
>
>any chance you have a copy fo this noxious species list?
>
>this is exactly why it is a good idea to ship plants bare root as most do
>
> >From: "Tropicals"
>
> >Reply-To: Discussion of aroids
>
> >To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
>
> >Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Ants
>
> >Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:26:48 -0400
>
> >
>
> >John:
>
> >
>
> >We recommend bifenthrin (hmm, spelling) aka Talstar, which is required by
>
> >our Department of Agriculture when exporting plants within and out of the
>
> >state of Florida; and clear restriction to AZ, CA, HI and LA. It is gentle
>
>
> >enough to spray delicate young foliage, yes aroids; yet strong enough for
>
> >even the nastiest of pests.
>
> >
>
> >Those restricted states are no longer accepting FEES for exceptions for
>
> >many, primarily the noxious species list, but not exclusively. They are
>
> >virtually restricting all plant / plant parts from movement into their
>
> >states; but we can all see they do not restrict what they export. Hmm. As
>
>
> >mentioned we know what the asian scale and other pests have done through
>
> >careless importation / exportation; we owe it to our plant recipients and
>
> >ourselves to impose proper respect and plant etiquette.
>
> >
>
> >Good luck; if that does not work, there are other solutions.
>
> >
>
> >Bill and Christian
>
> >Your AlterNative Solutions Team
>
> >www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>
> >Direct to Tropical / Desert Nursery
>
> >http://www.solutionsanalysis.net/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
>
> >
>
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> >From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
>[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
>
> >On Behalf Of Floral Architecture
>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:05 PM
>
> >To: Discussion of aroids
>
> >Subject: [Aroid-l] Ants
>
> >
>
> >Does anyone have thoughts on carnivorous plants in the
>
> >garden to deal with ants? I have at least 10 colonies
>
> >in various locations in my pots. They get a little
>
> >testy when I water. I always walk away from the garden
>
> >felling like I am covered in them. I would like to try
>
> >a few Sarracenias in various locations to seee if the
>
> >ants would be attracted to them at all.
>
> >If not, the pitchers make great cut foliage in
>
> >arrangements.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >=====
>
> >John Ingram in L.A., CA.
>
> >www.floralarchitecture.com check it out
>
> >Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com
>
> >310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)
>
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>
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