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  weeds are plants too
From: Lester Kallus lkallus at earthlink.net> on 2001.04.02 at 08:39:22(6130)
I'm almost afraid to ask this. (Dewey, take a valium before you read this.)

Now before any of you southerners go berserk, remember that I live up north
and that hard frost kills even the most invasive tender weeds.

So with that in mind, what's the best way to grow Gonatopus? How much sun
optimizes growth? Is it best in sandy, loamy or boggy soil? How much (and
how frequently) should I fertilize it?

How tall with they get when mature?


From: Regferns at aol.com on 2001.04.02 at 09:39:59(6131)
GONATOPUS!!!!!!! aarghhhhhh!!!!! Right now I have several volunteers making
their debut around my property. From my experience, fertilizers and
nutrients are not necessary. It appears there is a concerted effort on
behalf of the plant to take over the world. Now, you too have been chosen to
be a hapless victim.

All kidding aside, mine are growing in a brightly lit area of my garden.
Their distribution may have been though birds or lizards carrying the fallen
leaves (which will sprout a new plant without any encouragement) .

Reggie Whitehead
South Miami, FL

From: Lester Kallus lkallus at earthlink.net> on 2001.04.02 at 13:41:08(6132)
I suspect the southerners are going to be totally grossed out when I devote
a few pages on my website to Gontopus photos including closeups of any
reproductive parts & volunteers creeping up in the yard.

Don't get totally grossed out about northerners seeking Gonatopus. You can
spread out the disgust by recalling that we also pay $4 for Pistia & water
hyacinths (per each).

From: Durightmm at aol.com on 2001.04.02 at 13:42:06(6134)
In SW Fl. "G" grows rather recklessly with little or no choice of soil. It
thrives in beds but grows well as a volunteer. it grows to 4-41/2 ft tall
and is self reliant. Contained it is a rather nice plant and for you I am
sure it could be an interesting one. As Reggie said it is prolific and must
be mastered. Good growing Joe

From: plantnut plantnut at macconnect.com> on 2001.04.02 at 14:12:37(6135)
Surely you must be ill.... I suggest you start on a regimen of
antioxodents, and various other pills... all different colors, shapes and
sizes.... Possibly that will help...

As far as the plant is concerned.... pull up every one you can find and
put it in a plastic bag at the curb....

From: Jmh98law at aol.com on 2001.04.02 at 17:13:45(6136)
In a message dated 4/2/2001 4:12:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
plantnut@macconnect.com writes:


From: Piabinha at aol.com on 2001.04.02 at 19:44:33(6137)
In a message dated 4/2/2001 8:14:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Jmh98law@aol.com writes:

Where is Hermoine . . . surely, you have a contribution here! I miss your

From: Dean Sliger deanslgr at juno.com> on 2001.04.02 at 19:44:52(6138)
Les -

One person's "weed" is another person's "of easy care" plant (Marge
Talt's out there somewhere rolling her eyes). Sorry for not paying
attention in the past, but where "north" are you? I can't find much
information on this genus. I'll bet the Florida people are just trying
to keep it all to themselves. ;-)


From: Steve Marak samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 2001.04.02 at 20:45:19(6139)
>From my home in frigid (compared to southern Florida) north Arkansas,
where we'll probably get another good frost or two this year, it all seems
a bit ironic.

It's true, though, that even in my small greenhouse, where I make no
attempt whatever to actively propagate Gonatopus boivinii, I seem to
always have just enough to give away ... and I can understand a baby or
two in pots near and beneath the parent plants, but where did those others
come from, the ones in pots meters away and higher on the shelves?

What are the "native" conditions in which G. boivinii is found, anyway?
I see that the range is along the SE coast of Africa, but from the
dormancy (and the close relationship to Zamioculcas) I'd always assumed
there was some dryness involved. They certainly tolerate neglect well for
me. But then there was that one that somehow showed up in a pot of
Drosera, in one of my small carnivorous plant trays, easily 2 meters from
any other Gonatopus and several feet higher. Having plenty around, I left
it, in a sadistic experiment to see just how long it could tolerate such
hostile (I thought) conditions - those trays are kept standing in
distilled water, never fed, and what soil there is is 50/50 peat/sand. The
nutrient level must be nearly zero.

After two years, during which the Gonatopus never looked at all stressed,
I gave up and removed it, because it was getting way too big for the pot.
I've never seen such fat roots on one, and not brittle either. The Drosera
was somewhat the worse for the experience, though.


From: Lester Kallus lkallus at earthlink.net> on 2001.04.03 at 08:16:29(6140)
I live on Long Island in a seemingly slightly cooler pocket than the rest
of LI. It always seems about 3-4 degrees cooler in my yard than in
friends' yards just a few blocks away. Their bulbs come up earlier and
their first frost is usually a week or so later. Anyway, this is supposed
to be zone 7a although I've rarely seen it below the upper single digits
and haven't seen the temperature drop below 8 degrees in the past 3
years. That would technically make it 7b. The problem has usually been
the duration of the cold and not just the absolute bottom
temperature. This year, we're having the latest spring I've ever seen.

From the number and type of responses I've gotten, I look forward to
photographs of a small bed of Gonatopus (I have only a small handful of
tubers so far).. I'll probably try to place a link for some soothing New
Age music to play while viewing that page to relax the rabid southerners
who decompensate while looking at the web page.

If phalloids have been used as a food source by various cultures, have no
cultures tried to eat these tubers? It seems like they could solve the
world hunger problem from the reported rampant growth habits. McGonatopus

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.04.03 at 08:17:03(6141)

Remember that there are TWO 'varieties' down here, the smaller 'regular' one
w/ the markings, AND a MUCH larger all-green 'form' SAID to be the same
Good luck---how goes the cassavas??



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