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From: "Frank C. Marini" <mxmisl at brokersys.com> on 1997.03.25 at 05:27:13(531) Hello to all in the knowledge: I was pointed to this site-because you are the world expert on plants. [Q] +More I recently purchased two very werid pieces of anubias which I can't identify This anubias looks unlike my other pieces (a.congonsis, barteri, nana) its has very tall slender stalks (8-10" tall) with a arrowhead shaped leaf which points up at a 45 degree angle, the bottom of each leaf is forked and curls up to form a cup like structure. It appears to be an anubias, but with a twist. These little projections at the bottom point down and outward and are about 1" long. CAN ANY ONE HELP ME IDENTIFY THIS PLANT This is a drawing of the leaf leaf top -------------> x x x x x x x x x x x middle of leaf--------> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x bottom of knub xx x x x x xx x x x x stem -------------- > x x I am positive it is an anubias. Rhizome, roots structures. Additionally new leaves are appearing which are not the same shape-they appear to be more of a rounded spearhead shape w/ no sign of the little flanges at the bottom. Also I beleive something is wrong w/ this anubias because the bottom of the plant (where the leaf meets the rhizome) is turning brown, and one leaf looks as though it is "rotting off". ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. frank

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 1997.03.25 at 14:04:43(535) ---------- Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 1997 12:27 AM To: Julius Boos +More Subject: Anubias ID and help requested Hello to all in the knowledge: I was pointed to this site-because you are the world expert on plants. [Q] I recently purchased two very werid pieces of anubias which I can't identify This anubias looks unlike my other pieces (a.congonsis, barteri, nana) its has very tall slender stalks (8-10" tall) with a arrowhead shaped leaf which points up at a 45 degree angle, the bottom of each leaf is forked and curls up to form a cup like structure. It appears to be an anubias, but with a twist. These little projections at the bottom point down and outward and are about 1" long. CAN ANY ONE HELP ME IDENTIFY THIS PLANT This is a drawing of the leaf leaf top -------------> x x x x x x x x x x x middle of leaf--------> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x bottom of knub xx x x x x xx x x x x stem -------------- > x x I am positive it is an anubias. Rhizome, roots structures. Additionally new leaves are appearing which are not the same shape-they appear to be more of a rounded spearhead shape w/ no sign of the little flanges at the bottom. Also I beleive something is wrong w/ this anubias because the bottom of the plant (where the leaf meets the rhizome) is turning brown, and one leaf looks as though it is "rotting off". ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. frank Dear Frank, I've previously seen what you discribe [leaf-shape, etc.] in the above-water leaves on a plant grown in deep water in Miami some years ago. The thing is that cuttings from this same plant, but grown under different conditions and water depths produced leaves of a DIFFERENT shape to the original!!! Anubias is a VERY variable genus, and until you can produce an infloresence for positive I.D. at a herbarium or somesuch, you'll have to make do with whatever name you can come up with for the time being. The plant may not have a problem- they are generally VERY hardy but slow growing, and may loose several or most of their leaves when transplanted, especially to a new enviroment with new light levels, water depth, etc. They will produce DIFFERENT shaped leaves [as you see]. Keep your eyes on the NEW growth and leaves, and expect the old to rot off. As long as the rhizome is firm, iy will recover!! Hope this helps! Reguards, Julius ju-bo@msn.com

From: Tom Croat <croat at mobot.org> on 1997.03.28 at 03:26:57(547) Dear Julius: I have a revision of Anubias so if you send me a photo some time perhaps I can key this thing out for you. Tom +More > > ---------- > From: aroid-l@mobot.org on behalf of Frank C. Marini > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 1997 12:27 AM > To: Julius Boos > Subject: Anubias ID and help requested > > Hello to all in the knowledge: > I was pointed to this site-because you are the world expert on plants. > [Q] > I recently purchased two very werid pieces of anubias which I can't > identify > This anubias looks unlike my other pieces (a.congonsis, > barteri, nana) its has very tall slender stalks (8-10" tall) with a > arrowhead shaped leaf which points up at a 45 degree angle, the bottom > of each leaf is forked and curls up to form a cup like structure. It > appears to be an anubias, but with a twist. These little projections at > the bottom point down and outward and are about 1" long. > CAN ANY ONE HELP ME IDENTIFY THIS PLANT > This is a drawing of the leaf > > leaf top -------------> x > x x > x x > x x > x x > x x > middle of leaf--------> x x > x x > x x > x x x x > x x x x > x x x x bottom of knub > xx x x x x xx > x x > x x > stem -------------- > x x > > I am positive it is an anubias. Rhizome, roots structures. Additionally > new leaves are appearing which are not the same shape-they appear to be > more of a rounded spearhead shape w/ no sign of the little flanges at > the bottom. > Also I beleive something is > wrong w/ this anubias because the bottom of the plant (where the leaf > meets the > rhizome) is turning brown, and one leaf looks as though it is "rotting > off". ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. > frank > > Dear Frank, I've previously seen what you discribe [leaf-shape, etc.] in > the above-water leaves on a plant grown in deep water in Miami some years ago. > The thing is that cuttings from this same plant, but grown under different > conditions and water depths produced leaves of a DIFFERENT shape to the > original!!! > Anubias is a VERY variable genus, and until you can produce an infloresence > for positive I.D. at a herbarium or somesuch, you'll have to make do with > whatever name you can come up with for the time being. > The plant may not have a problem- they are generally VERY hardy but slow > growing, and may loose several or most of their leaves when transplanted, > especially to a new enviroment with new light levels, water depth, etc. They > will produce DIFFERENT shaped leaves [as you see]. Keep your eyes on the NEW > growth and leaves, and expect the old to rot off. As long as the rhizome is > firm, iy will recover!! > Hope this helps! > Reguards, Julius ju-bo@msn.com > > -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

From: Tom Croat <croat at mobot.org> on 1997.03.28 at 19:33:34(549) Julius: The Anubias is probably A. gigantea Chev. based on the shape alone. Tom +More -- Thomas B. Croat, Ph.D. P.A. Schulz Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden P.O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299 phone: 314-577-5163; fax 314-577-9596; email croat@mobot.org

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 1997.03.30 at 16:16:31(551) ---------- Sent: Saturday, March 29, 1997 12:15 PM To: Julius Boos +More Subject: Re: Anubias ID and help requested JULIUS: Thanks for the reply If you remember from the first time I email you-A. gigantea was also a possiblity. However do you still think that this is an above water leaf? To your knowledge does a.gigantea produce above water leaves? I have gotten two new leaves on both plants. Each plant has one new round spearpointed leaf and one that has a nubbed bottom(just like I was describing), It is however to early to tell if these knubbed leaves will crest the water surface frank Dear Frank, Anything is a possibility at this stage, as we're all making informed guess' UNTILL we see an infloresence! I believe all the species will produce both above and below water leaves if given the oppertunity. In the book "AROIDS" by D. Bown there is a color photo of an infloresence of A. giganteus, and she says-"The largest"[of the genus]" is A. giganteus with hastate, almost trilobed, leaves". I believe there is a review of the genus published, you may want to put a note out on this forum asking where it's available from. Good luck- Julius.

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