Source for Philodendrons

From: Carol Ann Bonner cadastra at mindspring.com> on 2001.06.01 at 03:33:46(6661) Although I haven't seen them discussed here recently, unless I am sadly mistaken, Philodendron is still a genus within the Aroid family (unlike Acorus which is listed in my copy of the Exotic Plant Manual but had been disowned by time of the D. Brown book.) I'm interested in obtaining one of the highly dissected Philodendrons and maybe one of the more dissected (or would that be trisected?) Syngoniums for my new greenhouse addition. I checked a lot of the links on the IAS website, but I didn't find a source. Any suggestions? Private replies are welcome in case someone doesn't want to show public favoritism to one vendor over another. Carol Ann +More Nashville

From: "Road Runner" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2001.08.11 at 20:23:56(7229) Hello Carol Ann. Russ in central Fla here, member of the Aroid Society discussion group. I had your email from the end of May still saved on my computer, and wondered if you had any luck in obtaining the Syngonium you wanted. I assume the 'highly dissected' form you requested would simply be a fully mature tip cutting. You probably already know this: After climbing a tree or post to maturity, leaves go from small and entire, to larger and dissected 3, 5, 7, 9 lobes. If the tip becomes disengaged from the surface it will start to go back to the immature, entire leaf form with much more distance between nodes; a 'runner' if you will, until it +More finds another surface to climb. Philodendrons change form when they climb also, some develop huge leaves, also the common yellow variegated 'Pothos'. At any rate, I can send you any number of this form of S. podophyllum. I grows like a weed on my mother's lattice privacy fence in Cocoa Beach, and can be quite invasive here. I have a large collection of rare Aroids, mostly Philodendron, Syngonium, Monstera, Alocasia, Aglaonema, etc. I think the white variegated form of S. podophyllum would be more decorative for your greenhouse, and it will become dissected also, but in a much smaller form that the all green type, which can get leaves a foot or more across. I could send this in immature form also, or others if you're interested. Good growing, Russ. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Source for Philodendrons > Although I haven't seen them discussed here recently, unless I am sadly > mistaken, Philodendron is still a genus within the Aroid family (unlike > Acorus which is listed in my copy of the Exotic Plant Manual but had been > disowned by time of the D. Brown book.) I'm interested in obtaining one of > the highly dissected Philodendrons and maybe one of the more dissected (or > would that be trisected?) Syngoniums for my new greenhouse addition. I > checked a lot of the links on the IAS website, but I didn't find a source. > Any suggestions? Private replies are welcome in case someone doesn't want > to show public favoritism to one vendor over another. > > Carol Ann > Nashville > >

From: Carol Ann Bonner cadastra at mindspring.com> on 2001.08.13 at 15:37:30(7235) Hi, Russ, How nice of you to remember and reply! I've had a couple of posts to the lists that I wondered if anyone got (although the one to which you refer wasn't one of them.) Yes, I was aware that many - I don't know about all - philodendrons and synogniums have different adult leaves than juvenile leaves. I helped my mother plant her household pothos in the ground after they moved to Leesburg and it shot up about 15 feet with leaves probably a foot across, but, of course, not dissected. What I don't know is how much Syngonium leaves change and whether the strongly tripartite ones I've seen in pictures are characteristic of certain species or are just more mature. A friend here just gave me a white-variegated form of S. podophyllum on Saturday. What I'd really like is one of the philodendrons that climbs and develops highly dissected leaves. It has to climb since I have much more vertical space than horizontal! I'm afraid my greenhouse is afflicted with the all-too-common disease of tripled-in-size/quadrupled-in-content. Most of the aroids I have are small and not-so-rare, but I have a lot of other plants I could trade. Any other plant families you're interested in? BTW, where in central Florida are you? Carol Ann +More Nashville have At 03:23 PM 8/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Carol Ann. Russ in central Fla here, member of the Aroid Society >discussion group. I had your email >from the end of May still saved on my computer, and wondered if you had any >luck in obtaining the >Syngonium you wanted. I assume the 'highly dissected' form you requested >would simply be a fully mature tip cutting. You probably already know this: >After climbing a tree or post to maturity, leaves go from small and >entire, to larger and dissected 3, 5, 7, 9 lobes. If the tip becomes >disengaged from the surface it will start to go back to the immature, entire >leaf form with much more distance between nodes; a 'runner' if you will, >until it >finds another surface to climb. Philodendrons change form when they climb >also, some develop huge leaves, also the common yellow variegated 'Pothos'. >At any rate, I can send you any number of this form of S. podophyllum. I >grows like a weed on my mother's lattice privacy fence in Cocoa Beach, and >can be quite >invasive here. I have a large collection of rare Aroids, mostly >Philodendron, Syngonium, Monstera, Alocasia, Aglaonema, etc. I think the >white variegated form of S. podophyllum would be more decorative for >your greenhouse, and it will become dissected also, but in a much smaller >form that the all green type, which >can get leaves a foot or more across. I could send this in immature form >also, or others if you're interested. > >Good growing, >Russ.

From: "Road Runner" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2001.08.13 at 20:13:03(7236) Hello Carol Ann. To my knowledge, there are no Syngoniums that start out life with leaves dissected more than 2 lobes. Like Philodendrons, climbing to maturity causes it. Your white-variegated Syngonium (that's the podophyllum variegata I mentioned before) will dissect and is very pretty in that form. Those I've seen have not had larger leaves than in the entire form, but they've only been on short bark poles. I have Epipremnum pinnatum in a very small 'runner' type form, and it will develop the highly dissected leaves you mention, but leaves may get larger than you want at several feet. It is also very fast. I would be happy to send you a selection of 6 to 8 vining type Philodendrons, all rare to anyone but collectors, for you to try. +More The ''my greenhouse is too small and there's too many plants in there'' syndrome you have is like the common cold among us greenhouse owners---at some point you're gonna get it. I am about 20 miles north of Orlando in the Lake Mary/Sanford area. Still too cold in the winter here, I spent my early years (a long time ago) in Orlando and had forgotten how cold it gets here when I moved back from San Antonio in 93. My brother is in Homestead and I do envy his growing conditions there. Maybe when I retire (for the 2nd time) in perhaps 3 yrs I'll go that direction. I was in the Air Force for 21 yrs and used to lug as much of my plant collection as I could with me on reassignments. Some of my Philo's go back to 1979. Anyway, let me know Carol Ann. My primary interest right now other than Aroids is Sansevierias, I have perhaps 150 different species, sports and hybrids. I have a very large succulent collection, but I'm 'trying to quit' on those. Definitely having withdrawal symptoms. I can send you the plants if you would reimburse the Priority postage. Just pay whatever postage is on the box when you get it, probably $3.95. Take care, Russ. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Source for Philodendrons > Hi, Russ, > How nice of you to remember and reply! I've had a couple of posts to the > lists that I wondered if anyone got (although the one to which you refer > wasn't one of them.) > Yes, I was aware that many - I don't know about all - philodendrons and > synogniums have different adult leaves than juvenile leaves. I helped my > mother plant her household pothos in the ground after they moved to > Leesburg and it shot up about 15 feet with leaves probably a foot across, > but, of course, not dissected. What I don't know is how much Syngonium > leaves change and whether the strongly tripartite ones I've seen in > pictures are characteristic of certain species or are just more mature. A > friend here just gave me a white-variegated form of S. podophyllum on > Saturday. What I'd really like is one of the philodendrons that climbs and > develops highly dissected leaves. It has to climb since I have much more > vertical space than horizontal! I'm afraid my greenhouse is afflicted with > the all-too-common disease of tripled-in-size/quadrupled-in-content. Most > of the aroids I have are small and not-so-rare, but I have a lot of other > plants I could trade. Any other plant families you're interested in? > > BTW, where in central Florida are you? > > Carol Ann > Nashville > > have At 03:23 PM 8/11/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello Carol Ann. Russ in central Fla here, member of the Aroid Society > >discussion group. I had your email > >from the end of May still saved on my computer, and wondered if you had any > >luck in obtaining the > >Syngonium you wanted. I assume the 'highly dissected' form you requested > >would simply be a fully mature tip cutting. You probably already know this: > >After climbing a tree or post to maturity, leaves go from small and > >entire, to larger and dissected 3, 5, 7, 9 lobes. If the tip becomes > >disengaged from the surface it will start to go back to the immature, entire > >leaf form with much more distance between nodes; a 'runner' if you will, > >until it > >finds another surface to climb. Philodendrons change form when they climb > >also, some develop huge leaves, also the common yellow variegated 'Pothos'. > >At any rate, I can send you any number of this form of S. podophyllum. I > >grows like a weed on my mother's lattice privacy fence in Cocoa Beach, and > >can be quite > >invasive here. I have a large collection of rare Aroids, mostly > >Philodendron, Syngonium, Monstera, Alocasia, Aglaonema, etc. I think the > >white variegated form of S. podophyllum would be more decorative for > >your greenhouse, and it will become dissected also, but in a much smaller > >form that the all green type, which > >can get leaves a foot or more across. I could send this in immature form > >also, or others if you're interested. > > > >Good growing, > >Russ. > > >

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