Lime and pine nuggets

From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2001.07.19 at 02:52:22(7074) OK I would like to know in my Alocasia mix would it be wise to add lime dust to the mix of perlite and powdered sphagnum? So do the aroids like the acid of the soil or does it matter. I know I planted a Philo willimsii in a mix with pine nuggets and it seemed to kill it. I figured from the acid being to high. The ones potted in a different mix are still a live. But the ones that had the pine nuggets did not send new roots into the soil and finally turned a bright yellow before dyeing. This also happened to another philo in only 12 day from being repotted. I have sense kept pine nuggets out of my philo mix. My amorphs seem to like pine nuggets thought. But to me pine nuggets and lime it seems most plants would only like one or the other do aroids like both? Like azaleas they only like acid soil and will not live with lime in the soil. +More So will lime kill a aroid? Will the acid soil kill a aroid? If so which ones? I _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From: Denis denis at skg.com> on 2001.07.24 at 17:25:44(7105) Dear Brian: I always add eight cups of dolomitic limestone (Dolomite) to my soil mix of Peat and Perlite. It help bring Ph of mix up to 5.5 to 6.0 a better range for the absorption of nutrients by the plants. Ph of the soil mix will usually shift downward (become more acid) as peat in soil breaks down. Adding dolomite supplies Calcium and Magnesium and keeps the soil mix at a higher Ph so that it lasts longer in the pot. Adding uncomposted Pine bark to a mix might acidify the mix and if as they decompose the bacteria and fungi that break down the bark may pull nitrogen and other nutrients from soil mix. Soil mixes may be a subject that we need to discuss further. Denis at Silver Krome Gardens Homestead Fla +More brian williams wrote: > > OK I would like to know in my Alocasia mix would it be wise to add lime dust > to the mix of perlite and powdered sphagnum? So do the aroids like the acid > of the soil or does it matter. I know I planted a Philo willimsii in a mix > with pine nuggets and it seemed to kill it. I figured from the acid being to > high. The ones potted in a different mix are still a live. But the ones that > had the pine nuggets did not send new roots into the soil and finally turned > a bright yellow before dyeing. This also happened to another philo in only > 12 day from being repotted. I have sense kept pine nuggets out of my philo > mix. My amorphs seem to like pine nuggets thought. But to me pine nuggets > and lime it seems most plants would only like one or the other do aroids > like both? Like azaleas they only like acid soil and will not live with lime > in the soil. > > So will lime kill a aroid? > > Will the acid soil kill a aroid? If so which ones? I > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From: plantnut plantnut at macconnect.com> on 2001.07.24 at 21:01:45(7111) Denis, When you add eight cups of dolomitic limestone... to what volume are you adding.... What is the cu. ft. of your mix... Dewey +More >Dear Brian: > >I always add eight cups of dolomitic limestone (Dolomite) to my soil mix >of Peat and Perlite. It help bring Ph of mix up to 5.5 to 6.0 a better >range for the absorption of nutrients by the plants. Ph of the soil mix >will usually shift downward (become more acid) as peat in soil breaks >down. Adding dolomite supplies Calcium and Magnesium and keeps the soil >mix at a higher Ph so that it lasts longer in the pot. Adding >uncomposted Pine bark to a mix might acidify the mix and if as they >decompose the bacteria and fungi that break down the bark may pull >nitrogen and other nutrients from soil mix. Soil mixes may be a subject >that we need to discuss further. > >Denis at Silver Krome Gardens >Homestead Fla > >brian williams wrote: >> >> OK I would like to know in my Alocasia mix would it be wise to add lime dust >> to the mix of perlite and powdered sphagnum? So do the aroids like the acid >> of the soil or does it matter. I know I planted a Philo willimsii in a mix >> with pine nuggets and it seemed to kill it. I figured from the acid being to >> high. The ones potted in a different mix are still a live. But the ones that >> had the pine nuggets did not send new roots into the soil and finally turned >> a bright yellow before dyeing. This also happened to another philo in only >> 12 day from being repotted. I have sense kept pine nuggets out of my philo >> mix. My amorphs seem to like pine nuggets thought. But to me pine nuggets >> and lime it seems most plants would only like one or the other do aroids >> like both? Like azaleas they only like acid soil and will not live with lime >> in the soil. >> >> So will lime kill a aroid? >> >> Will the acid soil kill a aroid? If so which ones? I >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Your source for Tropical Araceae http://members.macconnect.com/users/p/plantnut/

From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2001.07.25 at 15:44:19(7122) Is any one adding sulfur to the mix or any other rot protection? Also I have been adding tons of bulb food to my amorph and Alocasia mix. This is the stuff with blood and bone mill and other trace elements anyone else adding this to the soil mixes? Anyone know how well it works with them? My Alocasia mix for now is 2 bags 3 cubic ft of powdered spaghnum 1/2 a 3 cubic bag of manurer about 6 shovel full of perlite 3 shovel fools of lime dust half a bag of bulb food this is about 2 shovel full worth. Also I have been adding mulch to the bottom of the pots this soil is very lose and drains out the bottom after a good water. The mulch helps drainage also keeps the soil in the pot. If anyone has any other ideas would love to hear. Also would adding the sulfur to this mix help stop rot? +More _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

From: Denis denis at skg.com> on 2001.07.26 at 02:00:03(7130) Dewey: Ooops, I'm sorry I left out the rest of the ingredients: 1 (6 cubic foot) bale of compressed Canadian peat, 8 cubic feet(2 bags) of coarse perlite, 2 cubic feet coarse vermiculite, 1 cup Micromax(Micronutrients) 8 cup Dolomitic limestone. This can be tweak with composted pine bark or pea gravel, turface or whatever else you want to add. just throw all this out on the garage floor after disinfecting and turn gently yet briskly with a flat nosed shovel until thoroughly mixed. Denis at Silver Krome Gardens Homestead Florida +More plantnut wrote: > > Denis, > When you add eight cups of dolomitic limestone... to what volume are you > adding.... What is the cu. ft. of your mix... > Dewey > > >Dear Brian: > > > >I always add eight cups of dolomitic limestone (Dolomite) to my soil mix > >of Peat and Perlite. It help bring Ph of mix up to 5.5 to 6.0 a better > >range for the absorption of nutrients by the plants. Ph of the soil mix > >will usually shift downward (become more acid) as peat in soil breaks > >down. Adding dolomite supplies Calcium and Magnesium and keeps the soil > >mix at a higher Ph so that it lasts longer in the pot. Adding > >uncomposted Pine bark to a mix might acidify the mix and if as they > >decompose the bacteria and fungi that break down the bark may pull > >nitrogen and other nutrients from soil mix. Soil mixes may be a subject > >that we need to discuss further. > > > >Denis at Silver Krome Gardens > >Homestead Fla > > > >brian williams wrote: > >> > >> OK I would like to know in my Alocasia mix would it be wise to add lime dust > >> to the mix of perlite and powdered sphagnum? So do the aroids like the acid > >> of the soil or does it matter. I know I planted a Philo willimsii in a mix > >> with pine nuggets and it seemed to kill it. I figured from the acid being to > >> high. The ones potted in a different mix are still a live. But the ones that > >> had the pine nuggets did not send new roots into the soil and finally turned > >> a bright yellow before dyeing. This also happened to another philo in only > >> 12 day from being repotted. I have sense kept pine nuggets out of my philo > >> mix. My amorphs seem to like pine nuggets thought. But to me pine nuggets > >> and lime it seems most plants would only like one or the other do aroids > >> like both? Like azaleas they only like acid soil and will not live with lime > >> in the soil. > >> > >> So will lime kill a aroid? > >> > >> Will the acid soil kill a aroid? If so which ones? I > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > Your source for Tropical Araceae > http://members.macconnect.com/users/p/plantnut/

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