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  "Pilgrim's Progress"
From: Jill Bell godjillab at home.com> on 2001.07.22 at 22:33:25(7080)
To the global members of IAS - I would like to propose
some changes which are going to come as a result of
the 21st Century, and global communications and
information systems, the addition of the Eastern
Hemisphere as part of the lovers of aroids unit, and
many other things that are happening with or without
From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2001.07.23 at 01:05:39(7088)
In a message dated 22/7/01 23:33:39, godjillab@home.com writes:

<< I
just want to be able to find rare plants if I want

From: StellrJ at aol.com on 2001.07.23 at 22:46:07(7097)
In a message dated Sun, 22 Jul 2001 6:33:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jill Bell writes:

> A rose by any other name...well, we're talking aroids
> here, aren't we?

A Titanum by any other name would smell just as foul :)

Seriously, though, I think Ron had some good ideas. One misgiving about taking the Newsletter online is that the quality of a printout would differ from member to member, according to the abilities of our individual printers. I would rather be able to count on a published document produced on quality equipment I may not be able to afford. Actually, I was thinking I could save space by saving all my Newsletters to floppy disc; but my floppy disks just tend to die after awhile, presumably from old age....

From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2001.07.24 at 02:50:10(7101)
Hi StellaJ! (Please is that the name you like
to be called?)

Should not snails be more for the folks with no
convenient on-line facilities, no local internet Cafes, no on-line friends,
unable to afford printers? Obviously there are people who NEED
hard copy regardless & this is understandable.

Would CDRW be good for storing ALL the increasing
IAS Member Resources?

I understand the resistance to going on-line, it can
be addictive & if one is not careful it devours time mean't for
other far more important things. But used objectively it is a brilliant

An incredible convenience, on-line saves time,
money, patience & emails get wanted plants so quickly, whereas
writing letters can take months or years. It also enables all you
good people
so eloquently praised by Geoff to do things
that really are not possible without. Please, please chaps
& chappesses, get on line we can minimise snail. The IAS
workers can then divert energies into knowing each other more positively
& truly as build our formidable group more & more to represent
arguably the most wonderful group of plants on this

And by the way, although I have a CD
player & recorders for casual convenience, I prefer fine LPs on valve
equipment, mono LPs better than many stereo, having so many noble voices on
disc, but best of all I like the best pre-microphone voice records made
before microphones.
Contrary to what maybe some expect, I am not a with
it, should be dead mature whizz kid, (paraphrasing Oscar W.), "I have
simple tastes, I just like the the best". Old, or new, the best.
For rich rapid word, picture communication, on-line takes some
beating. PLEASE read my supplications in the News
And thank you for the goodness, Jill & Geoff
& all the counless others.

And while we are at it let's make this forum even
more fun, enjoyable & positive, respecting differences &
dignities. Lets make it something we can be proud of, not
just chat but fine fine debate, bearing in mind that sometimes people are
overworked and tired & so don't always see the
subtleties. If something is too much too much, maybe that's not
what they mean at all. I am privileged to have many friends
& d'yuh know some of 'em are even American.

Has anyone got Spathiphyllum atrovirens, S.
quidiuense or S. lechlerianum?

I now have a hybrid with double "butterfly" spathes,
And a giant with 16" spathe.

What about a PPP for exchange? (A PLANET PLANT

Yours as subtle as a brick,


From: "Michael Pascall" mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2001.07.24 at 15:24:21(7104)
Here in the tropics , floppy discs have a very short life , not lasting more
than a wet season if not stored completely sealed . The drives do not last
very long either , have gone through 2 so far ! And 2 modems fried by our
summer storms , wish I could afford an air-conditioned office!


From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2001.07.24 at 21:01:16(7109)

Ireland is obviously a very damp place also.
There are five ten years old de-humidifiers here
so no problem with our digital & analogue
equipment but we don't need continous diurnal
ventilation. No way could we let analogue
archive tapes get moist. A reversed inexpensive
dehumidifier venting to the outside air? Maybe
air conditioners are just as cheap in Oz? Have
you tried CDRW guaranteed 50-100 ys? I mostly
chucked little floppies long back. In expensive
Ireland printers which would do justice to the IAS
Dialogue cost <200 Euros. Living in the wet
tropics first consideration would be
dehumidifiers, airconditioners & musicalmoztraps.


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