Off the beaten track

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.06 at 01:32:53(7359) BTW, not a main preoccupation, but does anyone out there grow Salvia divinorum? Bonaventure W. Magrys +More

From: "Deni Bown" deni at yaxhampark.co.uk> on 2001.09.06 at 15:12:58(7366) Dear Bonaventure, Yes, I have lots. It's very fast-growing and easy to propagate. Seems to need rich soil, partial shade, and plenty of water. Tolerates min. 45F thru the winter in a polytunnel here in the UK. I tried it outdoors and it does well in summer but is mushed by the first frosts. Plants are very brittle and large ones difficult to repot without main stems snapping off. I've never had it flower yet, even as a large plant, say 4ft x 4ft. Maybe it needs to get even bigger? Or maybe doesn't like being confined to a pot. Chewed a few leaves but they tasteed so foul I gave up before seeing pink elephants. I too would be interested in hearing from anyone that grows it successfully or has seen it in the wild and can give hints on cultivation. Deni Bown +More -----Original Message----- magrysbo@shu.edu Sent: 06 September 2001 02:33 To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Subject: Off the beaten track BTW, not a main preoccupation, but does anyone out there grow Salvia divinorum? Bonaventure W. Magrys

From: mburack at mindspring.com on 2001.09.06 at 15:15:33(7369) Isnt that a psychotropic herb used in religious rituals? Im pretty sure it is... We wont ask why you want it :))))))))) +More aroid-l@mobot.org wrote: > BTW, not a main preoccupation, but does anyone out there grow Salvia divinorum? Bonaventure W. Magrys

From: "Cooper, Susan L." SLCooper at scj.com> on 2001.09.06 at 16:18:51(7371) Well now, that explains a lot about our beloved Bonaventure.... Just kidding!!!!! Marc, he probably wants it to hybridize to something else. :)))) Susan +More (a little sleep deprived and squirrely today) Isnt that a psychotropic herb used in religious rituals? Im pretty sure it is... We wont ask why you want it :))))))))) aroid-l@mobot.org wrote: > BTW, not a main preoccupation, but does anyone out there grow Salvia divinorum? Bonaventure W. Magrys

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.07 at 01:40:10(7390) OK, very funny y'all. But aren't aroids a religious experience? Doesn't viewing them elicit a psychotropic response? There are some plants - Arisaemas, orchids, carnivorous plants - that I say that God must have been on acid when He created them! +More >>>>>Yes, I have lots. It's very fast-growing and easy to propagate. Seems to need rich soil, partial shade, and plenty of water. Tolerates min. 45F thru the winter in a polytunnel here in the UK. I tried it outdoors and it does well in summer but is mushed by the first frosts. Plants are very brittle and large ones difficult to repot without main stems snapping off. I've never had it flower yet, even as a large plant, say 4ft x 4ft. Maybe it needs to get even bigger? Or maybe doesn't like being confined to a pot. Chewed a few leaves but they tasteed so foul I gave up before seeing pink elephants. I too would be interested in hearing from anyone that grows it successfully or has seen it in the wild and can give hints on cultivation. Deni Bown>>>>> Kidding aside, its a beautiful and graceful plant. A big quid of leaves is bitter chewed and held in the mouth to absorb Salvinorin before stomach acids destroy it, so I've never gone anywhere transdimensionally. It does make my garden seem larger, but I want to be able to walk out of it. When I see spathes speaking to me I guess I will know I did too much! Mine grew well this year in large pots of Fafard soil mix set on the ground under trees and branch extensively where primary leaf pairs were removed; much like sweet basil, which I also chew, for meditative purposes. I figure, where they're happy, the Arisaemas, Epimediums, Dysosmas, and Paris will do well also. I know, they tell me so ; - ). According to information on http://www.sagewisdom.org/ and http://www.sabia.com/salvia/ and other sites, it rarely blooms and almost never sets seed. Most plants appear to be a single clone that is artificially propagated by the Mazatec Indians and grows semi-wild in the highlands of Oaxaca, Mexico. My only problems with it are predation by every sort of garden pest - which love it (nothing seems to want to touch the flowering tobacco), and trying to root cuttings from the stems which often break off. BWM "Cooper, Susan L." @mobot.org on 09/06/2001 12:19:45 PM Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L cc: Subject: RE: Off the beaten track Well now, that explains a lot about our beloved Bonaventure.... Just kidding!!!!! Marc, he probably wants it to hybridize to something else. :)))) Susan (a little sleep deprived and squirrely today) Isnt that a psychotropic herb used in religious rituals? Im pretty sure it is... We wont ask why you want it :))))))))) aroid-l@mobot.org wrote: > BTW, not a main preoccupation, but does anyone out there grow Salvia divinorum? Bonaventure W. Magrys

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