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moody amorphs
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From: Piabinha at aol.com on 2001.09.07 at 01:42:24(7395)
i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that his lordiness
pee-pee sent me last year. it sat all this time without doing anything and
suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the impression it was coming
out of slumber. but then suddenly it turned brown and now it seems that the
tuber will not be viable anymore. why are these damn monsters so finicky?
i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again after growing for a
season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2001.09.07 at 14:56:29(7409)
Lord
Pee pee here!!!!!!
The
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thing is this: once a dilletant, always a
dilettant.................
Love,
Lord
PP
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----Van: aroid-l@mobot.org
[mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens Piabinha@aol.comVerzonden:
vrijdag 7 september 2001 3:42Aan: Multiple recipients of list
AROID-LOnderwerp: moody amorphsi have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that his
lordiness pee-pee sent me last year. it sat all this time without
doing anything and suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the
impression it was coming out of slumber. but then suddenly it turned
brown and now it seems that the tuber will not be viable anymore.
why are these damn monsters so finicky? i've had different
tubers in the past never sprout again after growing for a season or two
(bulbifer, paeoniifolius). tsuh yang chen, nyc,
USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: mburack at mindspring.com on 2001.09.07 at 14:58:11(7411)
Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it a couple of hundred times...especially with a beautiful parvulus this year.
aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that his lordiness
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> pee-pee sent me last year. ?it sat all this time without doing anything and
> suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the impression it was coming
> out of slumber. ?but then suddenly it turned brown and now it seems that the
> tuber will not be viable anymore. ?why are these damn monsters so finicky? ?
> i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again after growing for a
> season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
>
> tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2001.09.08 at 03:32:48(7412)
This is so depressing................AAARRGHHH!!!!!!!
Lord (de)P(ressed)
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> mburack@mindspring.com
> Verzonden: vrijdag 7 september 2001 16:58
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it a couple of
> hundred times...especially with a beautiful parvulus this year.
>
>
> aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> > i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that
> his lordiness
> > pee-pee sent me last year. ?it sat all this time without
> doing anything and
> > suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the
> impression it was coming
> > out of slumber. ?but then suddenly it turned brown and now
> it seems that the
> > tuber will not be viable anymore. ?why are these damn
> monsters so finicky? ?
> > i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again
> after growing for a
> > season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
> >
> > tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
>
>
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From: "Cooper, Susan L." SLCooper at scj.com> on 2001.09.08 at 03:34:00(7413)
Could it possibly be heat or sun? I've had several plants that started to
fail, even being in a shade house. I had to move them to the super-shade
house :)
Susan
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Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it a couple of hundred
times...especially with a beautiful parvulus this year.
aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that his lordiness
> pee-pee sent me last year. ?it sat all this time without doing anything
and
> suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the impression it was
coming
> out of slumber. ?but then suddenly it turned brown and now it seems that
the
> tuber will not be viable anymore. ?why are these damn monsters so finicky?
?
> i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again after growing for
a
> season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
>
> tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: Piabinha at aol.com on 2001.09.08 at 03:37:26(7417)
In a message dated 9/7/2001 10:57:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hetter@worldonline.nl writes:
The thing is this: once a dilletant, always a dilettant.................
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when does a diLLetant become a dileTTant? please advise...
so what's the answer to the question? maybe these tubers just have the
moodiness of his lordiness... LOL
tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2001.09.08 at 15:42:19(7418)
when does a diLLetant become a dileTTant? please
advise... [Wilbert
Hetterscheid] o.k., you got me
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there............. so what's the answer to the
question? maybe these tubers just have the moodiness of his
lordiness... LOL[Wilbert
Hetterscheid] I guess they wanted to examine the surroundings and then
decided it wasn't good enough. But more seriously: I know this behaviour too
(of my tubers, that is...). Usually it happens when roots and shoot don't
develop at the same pace. You will probably notice, when digging up the tuber,
that there are either no roots at all, or mushy ones. If the shoot has not
rotted into the tuber, you may want to keep the tuber a bit dry and
replant after a month. It may just try to do its thing again. If rot has
entered the
tuber...............well.............you'll
just have to get on your knees for Lord P to get a new one. You can do that, I
am sure....... As for an explanation: my guess is that the soil composition is
bad. Too acidic (acidous?) or too dense. Another reason may be that the tuber
has rested too long.
Lord
P.
tsuh yang chen, nyc,
USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2001.09.08 at 15:43:29(7419)
Aye indeed! Echo....so
depressing.....AAARRGHHH!!!!!!!
God, Sir, (Ma'am?) give the PPs (Plant Potterers)
medicaments for their mighty Orgy.
Ron O'Selva
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----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L"
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 4:33 AM
Subject: RE: moody amorphs
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org
[mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> mburack@mindspring.com
> Verzonden: vrijdag 7 september 2001 16:58
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it
a couple of
> hundred times...especially with a beautiful
parvulus this year.
>
>
> aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> > i have something weird happening to A. klausei
tuber that
> his lordiness
> > pee-pee sent me last year. it sat all this
time without
> doing anything and
> > suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving
me the
> impression it was coming
> > out of slumber. but then suddenly it turned
brown and now
> it seems that the
> > tuber will not be viable anymore. why are
these damn
> monsters so finicky?
> > i've had different tubers in the past never
sprout again
> after growing for a
> > season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
> >
> > tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
>
>
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From: Durightmm at aol.com on 2001.09.08 at 20:48:31(7423)
Susan, Which are the plants in trouble? For many growers some are inevitably lost. Perhaps it isn't just you. Take heart but suffer the loss$$$$ A. symonianus for some is considered a pig because it grows like A. bilbifreum while A.hewletii is a disaster for most while some grow it successfully. Sadly everyone cannot grow all species. Oh if it were only so. Joe
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From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2001.09.08 at 22:50:33(7425)
In a message dated 8/9/01 21:48:40, Durightmm@aol.com writes:
<< while A.hewletii is a disaster for most while some grow it
successfully. Sadly everyone cannot grow all species. Oh if it were only so.
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Joe >>
Joe,
interested to read what you said about A. hewettii, mine is grown indoors on
a windowsill and is doing its best to grow through the ceiling, currently
about 5 feet tall and very vigorous. Grew it from small seedling and its one
of the toughest and most reliable of all my Amorphs. As you say, you never
can tell. I find the African species the most difficult, they are so late in
emerging I always think they are dead! But eventually they do come up months
after every other species is well under way.
Geoffrey Kibby
London
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From: Plantnut3 at cs.com on 2001.09.09 at 03:23:23(7427)
This is interesting my first experience with Thyphonium started in March 2001
and they were the last Aroid to come in late July. All the other Aroid
plants were 6-10 weeks earlier Ray Maynard.
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From: Susan Cooper coops at execpc.com> on 2001.09.09 at 03:24:14(7428)
Ah, Geoffrey, you are now officially on my spite list (Some People I Truly
Envy)
I've tried to grow hewittii many, many times, to no avail... the longest I
can keep it going is a month. I can't believe you are growing it
indoors,on a windowsill!!
Susan
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>
><< while A.hewletii is a disaster for most while some grow it
>successfully. Sadly everyone cannot grow all species. Oh if it were only
so.
> Joe >>
>
>Joe,
>interested to read what you said about A. hewettii, mine is grown indoors on
>a windowsill and is doing its best to grow through the ceiling, currently
>about 5 feet tall and very vigorous.
>Geoffrey Kibby
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From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2001.09.09 at 17:00:18(7431)
Susan,
My plants came from the Malesiana Tropicals nursery in Kuching (
www.malesiana.tropicals.com) where they are tissue cultured along with
various other amorphs and Alocasias. They cost the princely sum of 8 US
dollars! They were very healthy and have never looked back, growing like
weeds, first in a heated and artificially lit tank then in my bedroom
windowsill. Quite what I am going to do when they get bigger (they can reach
huge proportions!) I am not sure, probably grow out on my balcony in summer
and keep indoors dormant in winter. Do try it again, it has the most
beautifully marked stem and attractive leaflets. I also got A. eburneus from
them and that too is growing like a weed. Maybe the tissue culturing makes a
diffference?
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Best of luck with your future attempts,
Geoffrey
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.10 at 22:20:15(7441)
Yes it is Wilbert. I lost the richardii you sent me.
BWM
"Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/07/2001
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11:33:52 PM
Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
cc:
Subject: RE: moody amorphs
This is so depressing................AAARRGHHH!!!!!!!
Lord (de)P(ressed)
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> mburack@mindspring.com
> Verzonden: vrijdag 7 september 2001 16:58
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: Re: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it a couple of
> hundred times...especially with a beautiful parvulus this year.
>
>
> aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> > i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that
> his lordiness
> > pee-pee sent me last year. ?it sat all this time without
> doing anything and
> > suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the
> impression it was coming
> > out of slumber. ?but then suddenly it turned brown and now
> it seems that the
> > tuber will not be viable anymore. ?why are these damn
> monsters so finicky?
> > i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again
> after growing for a
> > season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
> >
> > tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
>
>
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.10 at 22:21:07(7442)
OK, happened to my A-103, came with a nice point. this spring (A.
albispathum or albus?). I hollowed out the tip, put in cinnamon powder, and
rested it exposed on dry, rain-sheltered soil in a partially sunny
coldframe. Now it has 3 1 foot high and 1 foot wide leaves. Can't say as
much for half of Arisaemas I got from the same source through a friend this
year.
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BWM
"Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/08/2001
11:43:21 AM
Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
cc:
Subject: RE: moody amorphs
when does a diLLetant become a dileTTant? ?please advise...
[Wilbert Hetterscheid]?o.k., you got me there.............
so what's the answer to the question? ?maybe these tubers just have the
moodiness of his lordiness... ?LOL
[Wilbert Hetterscheid]?I guess they wanted to examine the surroundings and
then decided it wasn't good enough. But more seriously: I know this
behaviour too (of my tubers, that is...). Usually it happens when roots
and shoot don't develop at the same pace. You will probably notice, when
digging up the tuber, that there are either no roots at all, or mushy
ones. If the shoot has not rotted into the tuber, you may want to keep the
tuber a bit?dry and replant after a month. It may just try to do its thing
again. If rot has entered the tuber...............well.............you'll
just have to get on your knees for Lord P to get a new one. You can do
that, I am sure....... As for an explanation: my guess is that the soil
composition is bad. Too acidic (acidous?) or too dense. Another reason may
be that the tuber has rested too long.
Lord P.
tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.10 at 22:21:59(7443)
Typhonium venosum? Watch out!
Plantnut3@cs.com@mobot.org on 09/08/2001 11:24:08 PM
Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
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To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
cc:
Subject: Re: moody amorphs
This is interesting my first experience with Thyphonium started in March
2001
and they were the last Aroid to come in late July. ?All the other Aroid
plants were 6-10 weeks earlier ?Ray Maynard.
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2001.09.11 at 15:40:57(7456)
O.k., somebody out there wanna cheer me up for a change???????
Wilbert
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> magrysbo@shu.edu
> Verzonden: dinsdag 11 september 2001 0:20
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> Yes it is Wilbert. I lost the richardii you sent me.
> BWM
>
>
>
>
> "Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/07/2001
> 11:33:52 PM
>
> Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
>
> Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> cc:
>
> Subject: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
> This is so depressing................AAARRGHHH!!!!!!!
>
> Lord (de)P(ressed)
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> > mburack@mindspring.com
> > Verzonden: vrijdag 7 september 2001 16:58
> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> > Onderwerp: Re: moody amorphs
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like rot... Unfortunately I have seen it a couple of
> > hundred times...especially with a beautiful parvulus this year.
> >
> >
> > aroid-l@mobot.org wrote:
> > > i have something weird happening to A. klausei tuber that
> > his lordiness
> > > pee-pee sent me last year. ?it sat all this time without
> > doing anything and
> > > suddenly a small white cone sprouted, giving me the
> > impression it was coming
> > > out of slumber. ?but then suddenly it turned brown and now
> > it seems that the
> > > tuber will not be viable anymore. ?why are these damn
> > monsters so finicky?
> > > i've had different tubers in the past never sprout again
> > after growing for a
> > > season or two (bulbifer, paeoniifolius).
> > >
> > > tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2001.09.11 at 15:41:51(7457)
Chen-Yi's A-103 = A. albus. That is a strong species by the way, so I am not
surprised it survived surgery.
Wilbert
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> magrysbo@shu.edu
> Verzonden: dinsdag 11 september 2001 0:21
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> OK, happened to my A-103, came with a nice point. this spring (A.
> albispathum or albus?). I hollowed out the tip, put in
> cinnamon powder, and
> rested it exposed on dry, rain-sheltered soil in a partially sunny
> coldframe. Now it has 3 1 foot high and 1 foot wide leaves.
> Can't say as
> much for half of Arisaemas I got from the same source through
> a friend this
> year.
> BWM
>
>
>
>
> "Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/08/2001
> 11:43:21 AM
>
> Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
>
> Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> cc:
>
> Subject: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> when does a diLLetant become a dileTTant? ?please advise...
> [Wilbert Hetterscheid]?o.k., you got me there.............
>
> so what's the answer to the question? ?maybe these tubers
> just have the
> moodiness of his lordiness... ?LOL
> [Wilbert Hetterscheid]?I guess they wanted to examine the
> surroundings and
> then decided it wasn't good enough. But more seriously: I know this
> behaviour too (of my tubers, that is...). Usually it happens
> when roots
> and shoot don't develop at the same pace. You will probably
> notice, when
> digging up the tuber, that there are either no roots at all, or mushy
> ones. If the shoot has not rotted into the tuber, you may
> want to keep the
> tuber a bit?dry and replant after a month. It may just try
> to do its thing
> again. If rot has entered the
> tuber...............well.............you'll
> just have to get on your knees for Lord P to get a new one. You can do
> that, I am sure....... As for an explanation: my guess is
> that the soil
> composition is bad. Too acidic (acidous?) or too dense.
> Another reason may
> be that the tuber has rested too long.
>
> Lord P.
>
>
> tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
>
>
>
>
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.11 at 19:46:00(7458)
Next problem bulbous aroid/orchid after scooping out the mush and
power-washing I'm gonna try fungicide containing thick Perma-White
mildew-proof bathroom paint.
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We take our problems too seriously. Pray for the others.
Bonaventure
"Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/11/2001
11:42:37 AM
Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
cc:
Subject: RE: moody amorphs
Chen-Yi's A-103 = A. albus. That is a strong species by the way, so I am
not
surprised it survived surgery.
Wilbert
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l@mobot.org [mailto:aroid-l@mobot.org]Namens
> magrysbo@shu.edu
> Verzonden: dinsdag 11 september 2001 0:21
> Aan: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> Onderwerp: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> OK, happened to my A-103, came with a nice point. this spring (A.
> albispathum or albus?). I hollowed out the tip, put in
> cinnamon powder, and
> rested it exposed on dry, rain-sheltered soil in a partially sunny
> coldframe. Now it has 3 1 foot high and 1 foot wide leaves.
> Can't say as
> much for half of Arisaemas I got from the same source through
> a friend this
> year.
> BWM
>
>
>
>
> "Wilbert Hetterscheid" @mobot.org on 09/08/2001
> 11:43:21 AM
>
> Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
>
> Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
> cc:
>
> Subject: RE: moody amorphs
>
>
>
> when does a diLLetant become a dileTTant? ?please advise...
> [Wilbert Hetterscheid]?o.k., you got me there.............
>
> so what's the answer to the question? ?maybe these tubers
> just have the
> moodiness of his lordiness... ?LOL
> [Wilbert Hetterscheid]?I guess they wanted to examine the
> surroundings and
> then decided it wasn't good enough. But more seriously: I know this
> behaviour too (of my tubers, that is...). Usually it happens
> when roots
> and shoot don't develop at the same pace. You will probably
> notice, when
> digging up the tuber, that there are either no roots at all, or mushy
> ones. If the shoot has not rotted into the tuber, you may
> want to keep the
> tuber a bit?dry and replant after a month. It may just try
> to do its thing
> again. If rot has entered the
> tuber...............well.............you'll
> just have to get on your knees for Lord P to get a new one. You can do
> that, I am sure....... As for an explanation: my guess is
> that the soil
> composition is bad. Too acidic (acidous?) or too dense.
> Another reason may
> be that the tuber has rested too long.
>
> Lord P.
>
>
> tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies
>
>
>
>
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From: "Michael Pascall" mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2001.09.13 at 19:32:48(7479)
Willy, I am so pleased with the healthy vigorous phallids I have just had
released from quarantine.
Very impressed with the red colour on the petiole of Amorphophallus
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richardsii , its a very attractive addition to the collection.Thanks again
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