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xanthosoma mafaffa
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From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2001.10.02 at 19:44:20(7561)
Aroiders:
I'm trying to find anyone that has overwintered Xanthosoma mafaffa, the
cultivar sold as 'Aurea' or 'Lime Zinger' outdoors at any temperatures
below 32 degrees F. Any help would be appreciated.
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.10.09 at 02:47:26(7567)
Dear Tony,
I will be very interested in hearing the 'end' results of this
survey---Xanthosoma 'mafafa' (in fact all species of Xanthosoma) are
heat-loving plants, but who knows what extremes of low temps they might
withstand, as they do grow pretty far south into southern S. America
(Eduardo???). Somehow I suspect that you will find that the leaves will
not withstand much below say 50 degs F., and the plant will be killed by
wind with temps below this, and frost will kill the rhizome.
Please let us know the results of YOUR attempts, but only after 'you kill it
yourself---at least three times!'
Cheers,
Julius
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>>Aroiders:
I'm trying to find anyone that has overwintered Xanthosoma mafaffa, the
cultivar sold as 'Aurea' or 'Lime Zinger' outdoors at any temperatures
below 32 degrees F. Any help would be appreciated.
Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2001.10.09 at 05:29:27(7578)
Hi Tony,
Well, the plant you cited (i.e., the Xanthosoma "Golden", "Aurea" or
"Lime Green", erroneously known as X. mafaffa) is a heat-lover indeed. My
plants almost died here in Sao Paulo (temperatures during winter usually
reach 8 oC) and now they are trying to recover. I am not an expert on
overwinter plants (I have never seen real snow in my whole life!), but I do
not believe that these plants are that hardy. Their rhizomes are somewhat
tender and proned to desiccation.
Very best wishes,
Eduardo.
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>Dear Tony,
>
>I will be very interested in hearing the 'end' results of this
>survey---Xanthosoma 'mafafa' (in fact all species of Xanthosoma) are
>heat-loving plants, but who knows what extremes of low temps they might
>withstand, as they do grow pretty far south into southern S. America
>(Eduardo???). Somehow I suspect that you will find that the leaves will
>not withstand much below say 50 degs F., and the plant will be killed by
>wind with temps below this, and frost will kill the rhizome.
>Please let us know the results of YOUR attempts, but only after 'you kill
>it
>yourself---at least three times!'
>
>Cheers,
>
>Julius
>
> >>Aroiders:
>
>I'm trying to find anyone that has overwintered Xanthosoma mafaffa, the
>cultivar sold as 'Aurea' or 'Lime Zinger' outdoors at any temperatures
>below 32 degrees F. Any help would be appreciated.
>Tony Avent
>Plant Delights Nursery @
>Juniper Level Botanic Garden
>9241 Sauls Road
>Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
>Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
>Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
>USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
>email tony@plantdelights.com
>website http://www.plantdel.com
>phone 919 772-4794
>fax 919 662-0370
>"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
>three times" - Avent
>
>
>
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From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2001.10.09 at 16:15:15(7584)
Julius:
We tried Xanthasoma maffafa 'Aurea' outdoors back in 1995. That winter we
reached 0 degrees F, and the plant was mush. The foliage was fine up until
frost. I guess we should try again now that we are having global warming.
You've got to look at the positive side of every issue...xanthosomas will
be hardy for everyone soon!
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>Dear Tony,
>
>I will be very interested in hearing the 'end' results of this
>survey---Xanthosoma 'mafafa' (in fact all species of Xanthosoma) are
>heat-loving plants, but who knows what extremes of low temps they might
>withstand, as they do grow pretty far south into southern S. America
>(Eduardo???). Somehow I suspect that you will find that the leaves will
>not withstand much below say 50 degs F., and the plant will be killed by
>wind with temps below this, and frost will kill the rhizome.
>Please let us know the results of YOUR attempts, but only after 'you kill it
>yourself---at least three times!'
>
>Cheers,
>
>Julius
Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2001.10.09 at 16:17:26(7585)
Eduardo:
You mention that Xanthosoma maffafa is erronously known as such, but you
don't mention what it should be correctly known as...any help with a
correct name would be most appreciated. The only cultivar name for this
plant that adheres to the nomenclature code is Xanthosoma 'Lime Zinger'.
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>Hi Tony,
>
> Well, the plant you cited (i.e., the Xanthosoma "Golden", "Aurea" or
>"Lime Green", erroneously known as X. mafaffa) is a heat-lover indeed. My
>plants almost died here in Sao Paulo (temperatures during winter usually
>reach 8 oC) and now they are trying to recover. I am not an expert on
>overwinter plants (I have never seen real snow in my whole life!), but I do
>not believe that these plants are that hardy. Their rhizomes are somewhat
>tender and proned to desiccation.
>
> Very best wishes,
>
> Eduardo.
Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.10.10 at 05:34:40(7596)
Dear Tony,
Good luck! (as the corus of the song 'Dream Lover' by the Everly Brothers
plays in the back ground) I don`t think that Xanthosomas can or ever will
withstand near freezing temps.---better chance of penguins living in Lk.
Okeechobee or Elephants at the N. Pole, but we can try, correct?!
These tropical plants SEEM fine with a short 'blast' of low temps., but IF
they don`t turn to mush right away, the cold damage is horrific after a few
days/weeks, the tissues die, and then they die.
Hope to see you soon!
Julius
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>>Julius:
We tried Xanthasoma maffafa 'Aurea' outdoors back in 1995. That winter we
reached 0 degrees F, and the plant was mush. The foliage was fine up until
frost. I guess we should try again now that we are having global warming.
You've got to look at the positive side of every issue...xanthosomas will
be hardy for everyone soon!<<
>Dear Tony,
>
>I will be very interested in hearing the 'end' results of this
>survey---Xanthosoma 'mafafa' (in fact all species of Xanthosoma) are
>heat-loving plants, but who knows what extremes of low temps they might
>withstand, as they do grow pretty far south into southern S. America
>(Eduardo???). Somehow I suspect that you will find that the leaves will
>not withstand much below say 50 degs F., and the plant will be killed by
>wind with temps below this, and frost will kill the rhizome.
>Please let us know the results of YOUR attempts, but only after 'you kill
it
>yourself---at least three times!'
>
>Cheers,
>
>Julius
Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2001.10.10 at 05:35:17(7599)
Dear Tony,
I didn?t mention it just because I could not find a name for it! (That?s
quite simple...) I am completing an article about the cultivated Xanthosoma
and this is one of the "species" that doesn?t seem to have a Linnean name.
In fact, I do not know if it is a natural species. I am presently calling
Xanthosoma "Lime Green" or "Golden" or "Aurea" or "Lime Zinger" or whatever.
The only thing I know is that it doesn?t seem to be X. mafaffa, because of
vegetative and floral differences. In fact, true X. mafaffa is an elusive
species that doesn?t seem to be common in cultivation no more. It is
possible that this golden Xanthosoma is one of the species from the X.
atrovirens complex. I am still checking some aspects on it. By now, it is
better to keep the name exactly like it is.
Very best wishes,
Eduardo.
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>
>Eduardo:
>
> You mention that Xanthosoma maffafa is erronously known as such, but you
>don't mention what it should be correctly known as...any help with a
>correct name would be most appreciated. The only cultivar name for this
>plant that adheres to the nomenclature code is Xanthosoma 'Lime Zinger'.
>
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From: Tony Avent tony at plantdel.com> on 2001.10.10 at 16:14:23(7606)
Eduardo:
I hope you will keep up posted as your research yields results.
At 12:35 AM 10/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
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>Dear Tony,
>
> I didn?t mention it just because I could not find a name for it! (That?s
>quite simple...) I am completing an article about the cultivated Xanthosoma
>and this is one of the "species" that doesn?t seem to have a Linnean name.
>In fact, I do not know if it is a natural species. I am presently calling
>Xanthosoma "Lime Green" or "Golden" or "Aurea" or "Lime Zinger" or whatever.
>The only thing I know is that it doesn?t seem to be X. mafaffa, because of
>vegetative and floral differences. In fact, true X. mafaffa is an elusive
>species that doesn?t seem to be common in cultivation no more. It is
>possible that this golden Xanthosoma is one of the species from the X.
>atrovirens complex. I am still checking some aspects on it. By now, it is
>better to keep the name exactly like it is.
>
> Very best wishes,
>
> Eduardo.
>
>
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>>Eduardo:
>>
>> You mention that Xanthosoma maffafa is erronously known as such, but you
>>don't mention what it should be correctly known as...any help with a
>>correct name would be most appreciated. The only cultivar name for this
>>plant that adheres to the nomenclature code is Xanthosoma 'Lime Zinger'.
>>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
>
>
>
Tony Avent
Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, NC 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdel.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 662-0370
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
three times" - Avent
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From: Iza & Carol Goroff goroff at idcnet.com> on 2001.10.10 at 16:15:16(7607)
> --better chance of penguins living in Lk. Okeechobee or Elephants at the N.
> Pole,
Wooly mammoths lived quite close until either humans hunted them out of
existence or it got too warm.
Iza Goroff
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Whitewater Wisconsin, 1/2 way to the North Pole
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