largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia?

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2002.04.24 at 22:16:01(8627) To those who've already requested me as of this time or that I've promised to, I'll send something out soon. I just returned from a trip to various groceries, and Suran is out of season apparently. (I was offered some frozen Suran. Rather difficult to explain to the stockperson why this was not satisfactory). +More Bonaventure

From: "Randall M. Story" story at caltech.edu> on 2002.04.25 at 02:48:22(8628) When is the season for fresh suran (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius tuber eaten in India)? I checked out one of the Indian neighborhoods in Los Angeles (Pioneer Blvd. in Artesia) a couple months ago--all they had was canned. Does anyone know whether other Asian markets (Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese) ever carry it? Do these ever have fresh A. konjac? There are a lot more of those markets (and they're a lot bigger) closer to me. Randy +More Pasadena, CA zone 10 (do they have a "zone" equivalent in Celsius??) ---------- >From: magrysbo@shu.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? >Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 3:16 PM > > > To those who've already requested me as of this time or that I've promised > to, I'll send something out soon. I just returned from a trip to various > groceries, and Suran is out of season apparently. (I was offered some > frozen Suran. Rather difficult to explain to the stockperson why this was > not satisfactory). > Bonaventure > >

From: Cgdz33a at aol.com on 2002.04.25 at 04:52:26(8630) I got a huge Suran bulb in NY (Jackson Heights) last fall for $17. It is about 8 lbs Eric Morgan +More Clark Botanic Garden

From: IntarsiaCo at aol.com on 2002.04.25 at 14:56:39(8631) In a message dated 4/24/2002 10:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, story@caltech.edu writes: When is the season for fresh suran (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius tuber eaten in India)? I noticed them at the markets late fall- early winter. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. +More www.therapyshapes.com Gaylordsville, Connecticut, U.S.A. Araceae, Paris, Cape Bulbs USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.25 at 14:59:52(8632) Dear 'Suranophiles', I will make an effort to question my Indian storekeeper here in WPB as to when 'suran' becomes available. It may be useful in your search to know that he tells me that suran is eaten mainly by some ethnic groups from S. India and Ceylon (Sri Lanka?) who cook it at certain festival/times. He told me that he believes that it is grown in and exported from Jamaica ( ! ), but I will try to find out more. Those that I saw at his shop were wrapped and packed much like other vegetables from Jamaica that I have seen arrive for sale , like the yellow yams (Dioscorea) and dasheen (Colocasia). My GUESS would be that suran would become available at the end of it`s growing season, i. e. the end of the year when the dry season in Jamaica sets in. I will keep the list informed on my findings! Julius +More >When is the season for fresh suran (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius tuber eaten in India)? I checked out one of the Indian neighborhoods in Los Angeles (Pioneer Blvd. in Artesia) a couple months ago--all they had was canned. Does anyone know whether other Asian markets (Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese) ever carry it? Do these ever have fresh A. konjac? There are a lot more of those markets (and they're a lot bigger) closer to me. Randy Pasadena, CA zone 10 (do they have a "zone" equivalent in Celsius??) ---------- >From: magrysbo@shu.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? >Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 3:16 PM > > > To those who've already requested me as of this time or that I've promised > to, I'll send something out soon. I just returned from a trip to various > groceries, and Suran is out of season apparently. (I was offered some > frozen Suran. Rather difficult to explain to the stockperson why this was > not satisfactory). > Bonaventure > >

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2002.04.25 at 19:36:38(8634) Thanks for all the extra research on the part of all the Suranoslueths! My local indian marts had, besides edoes and things that looked like Xanthosomas, a suran lookalike called "ratalu". Any ideas? Bonaventure

From: "David Ruland" druland at atlantabotanicalgarden.org> on 2002.04.26 at 01:43:14(8636) If the ratalu is the same as what I found with the suran in atlanta it is some kind of dioscorea yam thing. very attractive vine with purple veins. +More -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? Thanks for all the extra research on the part of all the Suranoslueths! My local indian marts had, besides edoes and things that looked like Xanthosomas, a suran lookalike called "ratalu". Any ideas? Bonaventure

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.26 at 01:46:46(8637) ----- Original Message ----- From: IntarsiaCo@aol.com +More To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? In a message dated 4/24/2002 10:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, story@caltech.edu writes: When is the season for fresh suran (Amorphophallus paeoniifolius tuber eatenin India)? Hello Folks, As Mark just reported, the 'season' when 'suran' become availabe here in the USA seems to be late fall and winter, which corresponds with the dry season in Jamaica where they are reportedly grown! I just checked w/ my local Indian store owner, and he confirms this. Julius. >>I noticed them at the markets late fall- early winter. Mark MazerIntarsia Ltd.www.therapyshapes.comGaylordsville, Connecticut, U.S.A.Araceae, Paris, Cape BulbsUSDA Zone 5Giant Schnauzer Rescue

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.26 at 01:49:49(8639) I am interested in finding out about this name, as 'alu' or 'aloo' is commonly used for a potato or potato-like root. Did you buy one to try growing it?? It may be another species of Amorphophallus!! Julius +More >>Thanks for all the extra research on the part of all the Suranoslueths! My local indian marts had, besides edoes and things that looked like Xanthosomas, a suran lookalike called "ratalu". Any ideas? Bonaventure<<

From: "Kathy Kempf" wont_read101 at hotmail.com> on 2002.04.26 at 02:25:01(8642) Sorry, I can't resist: how much is that in slugs? :) AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH >From: Cgdz33a@aol.com +More >Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:52:22 -0500 (CDT) > >I got a huge Suran bulb in NY (Jackson Heights) last fall for $17. It is >about 8 lbs > >Eric Morgan >Clark Botanic Garden _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.04.26 at 14:59:46(8644) Ah Ha!!! This has 'tickled' my memory! Ratalu is a purpel-fleshed species of Dioscorea, Scott Hyndman (our IAS President) and Petra bought some tubers while we toured a Vietnamese market just a couple months ago. My Indian grocery also had some for sale, as did a W.I. grocery nearby. It is also sold in cans at the Indian store. It is a delectable starch, though the color of the peeled/cooked vegetable is quite startling, a rich dark purple-lilac! When grown as a plant it becomes a vine w/ cordate leaves. Julius +More >>If the ratalu is the same as what I found with the suran in atlanta it is some kind of dioscorea yam thing. very attractive vine with purple veins.<< -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Subject: Re: largish (grapefrut) sized A. peonifolia? Thanks for all the extra research on the part of all the Suranoslueths! My local indian marts had, besides edoes and things that looked like Xanthosomas, a suran lookalike called "ratalu". Any ideas? Bonaventure

From: IntarsiaCo at aol.com on 2002.04.26 at 16:11:59(8651) In a message dated 4/26/2002 11:00:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ju-bo@msn.com writes: Ratalu is a purpel-fleshed species of Dioscorea, I believe that Ratalu is one of the cultivars of a commonly grown edible Dioscerea species. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. +More www.therapyshapes.com Gaylordsville, Connecticut, U.S.A. Araceae, Paris, Cape Bulbs USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2002.04.26 at 20:20:33(8654) Thanks, In the immortal words of Popeye: "I yam what I yam!" Bonaventure

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