Eddoe

From: The Thaumaturgist asitkghosh at yahoo.com> on 2002.08.19 at 03:39:31(9226) Here are 6 photos from a tuber that was labeled in the store as Eddoe. The photos show the transformation from the tuber to a small plant. I understand that the name ?Eddoe? is used only in the English-speaking Caribbean Islands. Other names are also used there sometimes interchangeably or correctly to mean other Aroids, adding to the nomenclature confusion. The English-speaking Caribbean also uses the following names other than Eddoe, Dasheen = Colocasia esculenta Calaloo = Leaves of Colocasia esculenta Tanier = Xanthosoma sagittifolia Tannia = Xanthosaoma sagittifolia 1) Bought from the store, a close-up http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe01ASIT 2) Three different ones http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe02ASIT 3) Multiple sprouts from one, in a small pot http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe03ASIT 4) 3 distinct sprouts developing from one http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe04ASIT 5) A baby leaf after the rain http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe05ASIT 6) A mature Eddoe leaf http://www.geocities.com/bohuroopi/Eddoe06ASIT Asit K. Ghosh +More Rockledge, Florida __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

From: "Clarence Hammer" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2002.08.19 at 08:33:03(9229) So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? This looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've seen referred to as 'Red Dot'. Thanks for those great pictures. Russ.

From: The Thaumaturgist asitkghosh at yahoo.com> on 2002.08.19 at 14:39:56(9232) Hi Clarence Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how I forgot to mention the very name of the subject that I wrote about. I believe Eddoe is Colocasia esculenta "Antiquorum". However the ones that you see in the ditches in Florida, sometimes called "Swamp Taro" by locals, are NOT Eddoe. I only know that they are another variety of Colocasia esculenta. Asit +More ============================================================== --- Clarence Hammer wrote: > So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? > This > looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've > seen > referred to as 'Red Dot'. > > Thanks for those great pictures. > > Russ. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

From: "Plantsman" plantsman at prodigy.net> on 2002.08.19 at 19:58:51(9234) I've seen this 'red dot' variety identified as Colocasia esculenta var. aquatilis. This same type grows for miles along the San Marcos River, TX (between Austin & San Antonio), starting right below the Aquarena Springs Lake dam in San Marcos. The constant 72?F water from the giant springs ensures that it grows very well year 'round. It doesn't produce a tuber and is very stoloniferous. I grew them for several years here in Northeast TN, and a few escaped stolons that were buried survived our cold winters. The pots that were put in the basement for the winter subsequently died after being dry for a couple of months (as did my C. 'Black Magic' ). I tried it again with the next year and kept them moist. They also died. Alas, with no greenhouse and an already crowded windowsill, it was all that I could offer them. It seems that they don't want to go dormant, period! +More David Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) where the drought finally appears to be over for awhile ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe : Thanks Asit. The one in ditches so prevalent here : in central Fla doesn't seem to be a huge grower, altho maybe 'ditch' : conditions and overcrowding : may be stunting them. Their leaf looks just like the : one you posted with the red dot. Anyone else have : an input to firm up these identifications??? : Russ. : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "The Thaumaturgist" : To: : Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:39 AM : Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe : : : > Hi Clarence : > Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how I forgot to mention the : > very name of the subject that I wrote about. : > : > I believe Eddoe is Colocasia esculenta "Antiquorum". : > : > However the ones that you see in the ditches in Florida, sometimes : > called "Swamp Taro" by locals, are NOT Eddoe. I only know that they : > are another variety of Colocasia esculenta. : > : > Asit : > ============================================================== : > --- Clarence Hammer wrote: : > > So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? : > > This : > > looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've : > > seen : > > referred to as 'Red Dot'. : > > : > > Thanks for those great pictures. : > > : > > Russ. : > > : > > : > : > : > __________________________________________________ : > Do You Yahoo!? : > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs : > http://www.hotjobs.com : :

From: "Clarence Hammer" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2002.08.19 at 20:12:56(9235) Thanks Asit. The one in ditches so prevalent here in central Fla doesn't seem to be a huge grower, altho maybe 'ditch' conditions and overcrowding +More may be stunting them. Their leaf looks just like the one you posted with the red dot. Anyone else have an input to firm up these identifications??? Russ. ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe > Hi Clarence > Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how I forgot to mention the > very name of the subject that I wrote about. > > I believe Eddoe is Colocasia esculenta "Antiquorum". > > However the ones that you see in the ditches in Florida, sometimes > called "Swamp Taro" by locals, are NOT Eddoe. I only know that they > are another variety of Colocasia esculenta. > > Asit > ============================================================== > --- Clarence Hammer wrote: > > So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? > > This > > looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've > > seen > > referred to as 'Red Dot'. > > > > Thanks for those great pictures. > > > > Russ. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com

From: Plantnut3 at cs.com on 2002.08.19 at 23:42:40(9236) Have you tried making plastic tent over your pots and the using soft light and heat? Just an idea because it does work with some of the aroids. Ray

From: "Harry Witmore" harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2002.08.19 at 23:44:51(9237) That's interesting. I live in North Carolina and take up Black Magic and Illustris and place them in a plastic bag and put the whole ting under the house. I don't even look at them until spring. I've done this for years and they always come back. I guess there's no rhyme nor reason to how to carry them over. I'm storing them in a greenhouse now and they seem to store a little better. Harry Witmore +More Cloud Jungle Art www.witmore.net -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]On Behalf Of Plantsman Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:59 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe I've seen this 'red dot' variety identified as Colocasia esculenta var. aquatilis. This same type grows for miles along the San Marcos River, TX (between Austin & San Antonio), starting right below the Aquarena Springs Lake dam in San Marcos. The constant 72?F water from the giant springs ensures that it grows very well year 'round. It doesn't produce a tuber and is very stoloniferous. I grew them for several years here in Northeast TN, and a few escaped stolons that were buried survived our cold winters. The pots that were put in the basement for the winter subsequently died after being dry for a couple of months (as did my C. 'Black Magic' ). I tried it again with the next year and kept them moist. They also died. Alas, with no greenhouse and an already crowded windowsill, it was all that I could offer them. It seems that they don't want to go dormant, period! David Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) where the drought finally appears to be over for awhile ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe : Thanks Asit. The one in ditches so prevalent here : in central Fla doesn't seem to be a huge grower, altho maybe 'ditch' : conditions and overcrowding : may be stunting them. Their leaf looks just like the : one you posted with the red dot. Anyone else have : an input to firm up these identifications??? : Russ. : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "The Thaumaturgist" : To: : Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:39 AM : Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe : : : > Hi Clarence : > Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how I forgot to mention the : > very name of the subject that I wrote about. : > : > I believe Eddoe is Colocasia esculenta "Antiquorum". : > : > However the ones that you see in the ditches in Florida, sometimes : > called "Swamp Taro" by locals, are NOT Eddoe. I only know that they : > are another variety of Colocasia esculenta. : > : > Asit : > ============================================================== : > --- Clarence Hammer wrote: : > > So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? : > > This : > > looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've : > > seen : > > referred to as 'Red Dot'. : > > : > > Thanks for those great pictures. : > > : > > Russ. : > > : > > : > : > : > __________________________________________________ : > Do You Yahoo!? : > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs : > http://www.hotjobs.com : :

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.08.20 at 00:07:54(9238) Dear Friends, Colocasia esculenta, the 'dasheen-type' with one large oval or trunk-like central rhizome/tuber (there are several varieties of this with different colors/flavors/textures) known in literature as Colocasia esculenta esculenta. The second is the 'eddoe-type' with many small oval tubers/rhizomes produced from the central slim underground portion of the rhizome (I know of two, maybe more kinds/types of this) which is refered to in the literature as C. esculenta var. antiquorum or globiffera. The third is the kind/type that produces MANY stolons but only small or no tubers/rhizomes, it occurs in MANY forms of MANY leaf colors, and is used gastronomically for its leaf production and is cooked/eaten as spinach-like dishes and 'wraps'. Some have less 'itch' to the leaves than others. I have read of many seeming 'made-up' names refering to or denoting its stoloniferous condition, but am not certain if any have scientific standing. A few years ago (2?) I collected and sent to someone on this list specimens of two that commonly grow as weeds here in WPB, Florida, one grew on the S. side of the Kravis Center for the arts and was TALL, about 5 ft., their new construction has eliminated this stand. There is also a very large var. sold by Excelsor gardens here in WPB, it gets to about 6' tall and has a leaf blade w/ VERY heavy/tough texture, a VERY attractive plant for a large pond. Hope this is of interest. Julius +More >Thanks Asit. The one in ditches so prevalent here in central Fla doesn't seem to be a huge grower, altho maybe 'ditch' conditions and overcrowding may be stunting them. Their leaf looks just like the one you posted with the red dot. Anyone else have an input to firm up these identifications??? Russ.< ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Eddoe > Hi Clarence > Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how I forgot to mention the > very name of the subject that I wrote about. > > I believe Eddoe is Colocasia esculenta "Antiquorum". > > However the ones that you see in the ditches in Florida, sometimes > called "Swamp Taro" by locals, are NOT Eddoe. I only know that they > are another variety of Colocasia esculenta. > > Asit > ============================================================== > --- Clarence Hammer wrote: > > So what is the botanical name of the Alocasia/Colocasia 'Eddoe'??? > > This > > looks like the one I see in ditches here in central Fla that I've > > seen > > referred to as 'Red Dot'. > > > > Thanks for those great pictures. > > > > Russ. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com

From: "Clarence Hammer" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2002.08.20 at 08:09:31(9241) Thanks for all the info folks on the 'Red Dot'. I think I recall you relating this info some time ago David, about the San Marcos river plants being v. aquatilis. Thanks for reiterating that. I've made notes this time. Along with the prolific v. aquatilis here in central Fla, I occasionally see a large leaved type amongst them. Will have to see if it's the same or something different. Russ.

From: angel morales angel151 at earthlink.net> on 2002.08.20 at 17:56:02(9243) Please send pics of Eddoe var, talked about in the last few emails. Would love to learn about them. angel -- Angel151@earthlink.net

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.08.20 at 23:10:28(9247) Perhaps someone else can post pics. of these vars. of Colocasia esculenta, I am not able to. Julius +More >>Please send pics of Eddoe var, talked about in the last few emails. Would love to learn about them. angel -- Angel151@earthlink.net

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