Funny Amorphohallus titanum leaf

From: StroWi at t-online.de (StroWi) on 2002.09.09 at 21:43:00(9370) Aroiders, A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at the base of the joungest petiole of his Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes that it belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. titanum does not grow offsets, but I want to get some feed back from the list about this small leaf in order to tell him what the experienced aroiders think about it. Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery of the IAS site for me in order to illustrate my request. Everyone who is interested please have a look at: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html Looking forward to any comment! Good growing, Bernhard. +More Dollbergen, Germany approx. zone 6/7

From: mburack at mindspring.com> on 2002.09.10 at 13:23:38(9375) Mine have done this.... Historically it "has been" an offset. Moreover 2 of my young gigas plants have done the same thing and they have been offsets (for a plant which generally is considered not to). Marc +More On 09 Sep 2002 21:43 GMT StroWi wrote: > Aroiders, > > A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at the > base of the joungest petiole of his > Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes that it > belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. > titanum does not grow offsets, but I want to > get some feed back from the list about this > small leaf in order to tell him what the > experienced aroiders think about it. > > Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery of > the IAS site for me in order to illustrate my > request. > Everyone who is interested please have a look > at: > http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html > > > Looking forward to any comment! > > Good growing, > Bernhard. > > Dollbergen, > Germany > approx. zone 6/7 >

From: Douglas Ewing dewing at u.washington.edu> on 2002.09.10 at 15:29:05(9376) Bernhard, I have had titanum's that offset. They do not produce like potatoes, but they seem to occasionaly yield an extra tuber or two. Here's hoping, Doug +More _________________/\/\/\______________________ Doug Ewing, Greenhouse Manager (206) 543-0436 Department of Botany University of Washington Box 355325 Seattle, WA 98195-5325

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2002.09.10 at 15:54:48(9377) Dear Bernhard, What you see on the pictures is something that happens often in Amorphophallus or any tuberous aroid in general. These very small and often distorted leaves are produced by buds close to the main leaf and do not result in new tubers or offsets. Such buds are obviously erroneously induced to wake up. You will also see that it emerges from within the same set of cataphylls as the main leaf. When the plant dies down, you'll notice nothing of it. Rarely, in large mature specimens it may be the start of a major tuber division, proceeding from a small active subsidiary bud to a new plant in one or two seasons. Cheerio, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens StroWi > Verzonden: maandag 9 september 2002 23:43 > Aan: aroid-l > Onderwerp: [aroid-l] Funny Amorphohallus titanum leaf > > > Aroiders, > > A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at the base of the > joungest petiole of his Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes > that it belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. titanum > does not grow offsets, but I want to get some feed back from > the list about this small leaf in order to tell him what the > experienced aroiders think about it. > > Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery of the IAS site for > me in order to illustrate my request. > Everyone who is interested please have a look at: > http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html > > Looking forward to any comment! > > Good growing, > Bernhard. > > Dollbergen, > Germany > approx. zone 6/7

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.09.10 at 22:05:58(9379) I advise all growers of Amorphophallus titanum and the other giant species to get and read the article in a back-issue of Aroideana by Craig Alen, THE master grower of these plants at Fairchild Tropical Gardens in Miami, Florida. From memory I think he describes how when grown in smaller pots the plant puts its energy into dividing into many smaller tubers, and when given LOTS of pot space it then puts its energies into tuber size and this eventually results in it blooming. Marc earlier today reported about two species of his giants that have produced off-sets. Julius +More >>Aroiders, A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at the base of the joungest petiole of his Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes that it belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. titanum does not grow offsets, but I want to get some feed back from the list about this small leaf in order to tell him what the experienced aroiders think about it. Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery of the IAS site for me in order to illustrate my request. Everyone who is interested please have a look at: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html Looking forward to any comment! Good growing, Bernhard. Dollbergen, Germany approx. zone 6/7

From: mburack at mindspring.com> on 2002.09.11 at 13:17:17(9382) Bernhard, For some reason I cant seem to access that picture, but I can tell you that in my case, it has looked like a little leaf coming up next to the base of the larger one. +More As far as time, I couldnt say.... When the main leaf goes dormant or starts sending up a new leaf, I tend to repot, so when repotting, I just pot up the little one by itself. I will admit something however, I have found that these little offsets will ultimately go dormant and then they seem to take a long time to come back up. The little titanum offset I got at one point took almost a year to come up again. Marc On 10 Sep 2002 18:24 GMT StroWi wrote: > Marc, > > Thanks for your comment! > > Do I get it right, that your A.titanum offset > startet with a small leaf like the one shown in > the last picture in the gallery? > (http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html) > > If so, how long did it take that the offset > split off the mother tuber? > > Good offsetting, > Bernhard. > > schrieb: > > > > Mine have done this.... > > > > Historically it "has been" an offset. > > > > Moreover 2 of my young gigas plants have done > the same thing and they have > > been offsets (for a plant which generally is > considered not to). > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > On 09 Sep 2002 21:43 GMT StroWi wrote: > > > > > Aroiders, > > > > > > A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at > the > > > base of the joungest petiole of his > > > Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes that it > > > belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. > > > titanum does not grow offsets, but I want > to > > > get some feed back from the list about this > > > small leaf in order to tell him what the > > > experienced aroiders think about it. > > > > > > Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery > of > > > the IAS site for me in order to illustrate > my > > > request. > > > Everyone who is interested please have a > look > > > at: > > > > http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to any comment! > > > > > > Good growing, > > > Bernhard. > > > > > > Dollbergen, > > > Germany > > > approx. zone 6/7 > > > >

From: "Petra Schmidt" petra at plantdelights.com> on 2002.09.11 at 15:57:16(9385) Tissue culture - aha! - could be a factor in this baby leaf formation? I've grown Amorph. titanum from seed and from tissue culture plantlets and the root system looks different for the first growing season or two...tissue culture plantlets don't develop typical tubers but produce masses of roots the first season; the typical tuber usually doesn't take shape until the second growing season...it is amazing to see the "tubers" at the end of the first season, anything from rock hard little nuggets to thin flat disks to nubs of callus with whiskers of root hairs. Another thing I've noticed is that t.c. plantlets grown out in ground beds form tubers faster (and of more typical shape) than plantlets grown out indoors in pots although ones grown indoors in pots have more top growth (i.e. leaf and petioles are larger)... Petra +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "aroid-l" Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Funny Amorphohallus titanum leaf Marc, Thanks for your comment! Do I get it right, that your A.titanum offset startet with a small leaf like the one shown in the last picture in the gallery? (http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html) If so, how long did it take that the offset split off the mother tuber? Good offsetting, Bernhard. schrieb: > > Mine have done this.... > > Historically it "has been" an offset. > > Moreover 2 of my young gigas plants have done the same thing and they have > been offsets (for a plant which generally is considered not to). > > Marc > > > > On 09 Sep 2002 21:43 GMT StroWi wrote: > > > Aroiders, > > > > A friend of mine noticed a small leaf at the > > base of the joungest petiole of his > > Amorphophallus titanum and he hopes that it > > belongs to an offset. As far as I know A. > > titanum does not grow offsets, but I want to > > get some feed back from the list about this > > small leaf in order to tell him what the > > experienced aroiders think about it. > > > > Scott kindly put some pics in the gallery of > > the IAS site for me in order to illustrate my > > request. > > Everyone who is interested please have a look > > at: > > http://www.aroid.org/gallery/strolka/index.html > > > > > > Looking forward to any comment! > > > > Good growing, > > Bernhard. > > > > Dollbergen, > > Germany > > approx. zone 6/7 > >

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