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Typhonodorum
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From: eduardo gomes goncalves <eggon at guarany.cpd.unb.br> on 1997.05.16 at 21:48:06(747)
Dear aroidelers,
Yesterday, a packet with 4 (huge) seeds of Typhonodorum lindleyanum
Schott arrived in my mailbox, sent by a friend of mine from Belo Horizonte
(a Brazilian city). Obviously I enjoyed the surprise, but I have to admit
that I really don't know how to germinate (and cultivate) such species. I
know it is a true WD (water-dweller) from Madagascar and it was one of the
Burle-Marx's favourite to use in artificial ponds. In fact, we have a good
number of specimens growing in some government's buildings here in
Brasilia. But I'd love to know if any of you had any kind of experience
with the germination (and further cultivation) of this marvelous plant.
HELP ME, PLEASE...
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Best wishes,
Eduardo.
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From: "Richard Mansell (BIO)" <mansell at chuma.cas.usf.edu> on 1997.05.17 at 05:34:27(749)
Hi Eduardo, if you will plant them in a shallow tray about 2 x the depth
of the seed, in straight peatmoss which you can flood, they should do
fine. Once they are about 10 cm high they will have enough roots to
transplant. Do give them a lot of light as they seem to grow weakly
under shade. Fertilize with liquid every week and do not put them in
deep water until they are 1/2 meter high.
This has been successful for me.
Dick
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On Fri, 16 May 1997, eduardo
gomes goncalves wrote:
> Dear aroidelers,
>
> Yesterday, a packet with 4 (huge) seeds of Typhonodorum lindleyanum
> Schott arrived in my mailbox, sent by a friend of mine from Belo Horizonte
> (a Brazilian city). Obviously I enjoyed the surprise, but I have to admit
> that I really don't know how to germinate (and cultivate) such species. I
> know it is a true WD (water-dweller) from Madagascar and it was one of the
> Burle-Marx's favourite to use in artificial ponds. In fact, we have a good
> number of specimens growing in some government's buildings here in
> Brasilia. But I'd love to know if any of you had any kind of experience
> with the germination (and further cultivation) of this marvelous plant.
> HELP ME, PLEASE...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Eduardo.
>
>
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Richard L. Mansell Phone: H(813) 961-7072
Biology Department, LIF 136 W(813) 974-1588
University of South Florida Fax: (813) 974-1614
Tampa, FL 33620
Home: 13508 Little Lake Place, Tampa, FL 33613-4134
E-mail- mansell@chuma.cas.usf.edu
WWW - http://www.cas.usf.edu/~mansell/mansell.html
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 1997.05.18 at 00:04:44(751)
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 1997 5:48 PM
To: Julius Boos
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Subject: Typhonodorum
>Dear aroidelers,
> Yesterday, a packet with 4 (huge) seeds of Typhonodorum lindleyanum
>Schott arrived in my mailbox, sent by a friend of mine from Belo Horizonte
>(a Brazilian city). Obviously I enjoyed the surprise, but I have to admit
>that I really don't know how to germinate (and cultivate) such species. I
>know it is a true WD (water-dweller) from Madagascar and it was one of the
>Burle-Marx's favourite to use in artificial ponds. In fact, we have a good
>number of specimens growing in some government's buildings here in
>Brasilia. But I'd love to know if any of you had any kind of experience
>with the germination (and further cultivation) of this marvelous plant.
>HELP ME, PLEASE...
>Best wishes,
>Eduardo.
My friend Eduardo,
Once again, I`ve grown this! Put the seeds to float in a bowl of water, they
will put up a long (2")"stem" and roots (about 2-3 weeks or longer!), at which
point you pot them up as you`d do other water dwellers. I found that if I
put the seeds on soil too early, they rotted at the point of contact with the
soil. You could also try germinating them on wet sand as in Urospatha and
Dracontioides where the developing roots had something to go into, but the
float-in-water method worked perfectly for me, 100% sucess.
I will copy a very informative article on the propagation of this plant from
"Aroideana", Vol. 13, 1990, and get it in the mail together with the photos I
had previously mentioned, today.
Good growing!
Julius ju-bo@msn.com
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From: Arno King arnoking at yahoo.com> on 2002.07.03 at 15:40:21(9062)
Typhonodorums must be one of my favourite plants. I
think they look fantastic the way they rise up out of
a pond or lake. I really got hooked on them when I saw
them used in the landscapes created by Roberto Burle
-Marx in Brasilia, Brazil.
Luckily these plants seem to have been grown in
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia (approximately USDA
zone 11) for many years and I had no problem sourcing
plants.
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For the last 3 years I cut the old flowers off my
large (2 metre tall, 7 foot) Typhonodorum which grows
in a pot in my pond. I was under the assumption that
cross pollination between different plants was needed
for seed. 2 years ago I purchased 2 more plants which
will probably start flowering next summer. The idea
was to have flowers to cross pollinate.
After reading some comments on the list about self
pollination on these plants, I left the flowers on my
older plant. On Sunday I noted the spath of one flower
had opened a little and the fruit were loose.
It is now the heart of winter and really cold for us
Brisbanites. The days are warm and sunny in the mid
20's but the temperatures are diving down to 6 and 8
degrees C at night, with frosts in inland areas.
Also my pond is in an area shaded by trees during
winter, and the water doesn't get warmed by the sun.
Given the season and the brown mush of fruit and seed
in the bract, I didn't expect to find viable seed.
However on cleaning I found 9 large seeds. I placed
the cleaned seeds in a pan of water Sunday night.
Inspecting them on Tuesday afternoon I found two had
shoots 2 cm long (an inch), and others were sprouting.
I find this amazing given current temperatures in my
house. For a tropical plant, this plant does well in
our subtropical climate. I'm looking forward to
raising the next generation, however it looks like
I'll need to find homes for some of these plants, or
dig a bigger pond.
I find the root systems of the plant amazing. I repot
my big plant every 2 or so years. most of the roots
seem to be outside the pot and its a major struggle
repotting. Maybe I'll have to look at putting in a
permanent sand bed at the bottom of my pond.
=====
Arno
arnoking@yahoo.com
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.07.04 at 23:47:16(9077)
Dear Arno,
Nice letter! Yes, Typhonodorum is a magnificent giant Aroid, I first saw
thia at the home of the late Dr. Birdsey in Miami, Florida. His plants
looked like huge compact banana 'trees'! His bore fruit profously, and he
was very generous with visitors in giving these seeds away. I found that
if you tried planting the quickly germinating seeds in soil BEFORE all the
seed had been absorbed by the growing plantlet, the seed would rot on
contact with soil and the plantlet would die (the large seeds of the
neotropical giant aroid Montrichardia were very much alike in this manner).
I let the seeds float untill almost all the visible seed had been absorbed,
by this time there was a very well developed root system and a nice little
plant floating around, and I then planted them in a VERY sandy mix. I saw
a wonderful plant of this in bloom at a friends home, he had carefully
peeled away the straw-like covering of old petioles from around the 'trunk'
to expose a brilliantly colored inner live layer, shiny purple and cream
stripes!!
Good luck with all your aroids, and also with your trip to South America!
Julius
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Boos
West Palm Beach,
Florida U.S.A.
>>Typhonodorums must be one of my favourite plants. I
think they look fantastic the way they rise up out of
a pond or lake. I really got hooked on them when I saw
them used in the landscapes created by Roberto Burle
-Marx in Brasilia, Brazil.
Luckily these plants seem to have been grown in
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia (approximately USDA
zone 11) for many years and I had no problem sourcing
plants.
For the last 3 years I cut the old flowers off my
large (2 metre tall, 7 foot) Typhonodorum which grows
in a pot in my pond. I was under the assumption that
cross pollination between different plants was needed
for seed. 2 years ago I purchased 2 more plants which
will probably start flowering next summer. The idea
was to have flowers to cross pollinate.
After reading some comments on the list about self
pollination on these plants, I left the flowers on my
older plant. On Sunday I noted the spath of one flower
had opened a little and the fruit were loose.
It is now the heart of winter and really cold for us
Brisbanites. The days are warm and sunny in the mid
20's but the temperatures are diving down to 6 and 8
degrees C at night, with frosts in inland areas.
Also my pond is in an area shaded by trees during
winter, and the water doesn't get warmed by the sun.
Given the season and the brown mush of fruit and seed
in the bract, I didn't expect to find viable seed.
However on cleaning I found 9 large seeds. I placed
the cleaned seeds in a pan of water Sunday night.
Inspecting them on Tuesday afternoon I found two had
shoots 2 cm long (an inch), and others were sprouting.
I find this amazing given current temperatures in my
house. For a tropical plant, this plant does well in
our subtropical climate. I'm looking forward to
raising the next generation, however it looks like
I'll need to find homes for some of these plants, or
dig a bigger pond.
I find the root systems of the plant amazing. I repot
my big plant every 2 or so years. most of the roots
seem to be outside the pot and its a major struggle
repotting. Maybe I'll have to look at putting in a
permanent sand bed at the bottom of my pond.
=====
Arno
arnoking@yahoo.com
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From: GEOFFREY KIBBY <fieldmycol at yahoo.co.uk>
on 2014.07.03 at 22:25:05(22995)
Hi all,
Has anyone had any experience of sowing and growing on seeds of Typhonodorum? I have 10 very fresh seeds, already starting to germinate and I wondered just how wet they should be... I know adult plants can grow in deep water but should the pot in which the seeds are sown be completely submerged or just standing in water? Any suggestions appreciated.
Regards,
Geoffrey Kibby
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From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com>
on 2014.07.04 at 14:01:04(22997)
Standing in water should be fine. I have a mature specimen growing in damp
ground.
John.
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:25 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Typhonodorum
Hi all,
Has anyone had any experience of sowing and growing on seeds of
Typhonodorum? I have 10 very fresh seeds, already starting to germinate and
I wondered just how wet they should be... I know adult plants can grow in
deep water but should the pot in which the seeds are sown be completely
submerged or just standing in water? Any suggestions appreciated.
Regards,
Geoffrey Kibby
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