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  Philo cold hardiness and O/T Cyclanthaceae ID
From: Adam Black epiphyte1 at earthlink.net> on 2002.10.10 at 22:29:47(9516)
Here in northern peninsular Florida, Philodendron bipinnatifidum/selloum
normally recovers very quickly after the harder freezes we experience
each year defoliate it. The thick "trunks" never seem to be damaged, and
new growth sprouts from the crown in early spring, and by late spring,
the plant is full again. What makes this plant this cold tolerant? Does
its native range extend into areas or altitudes that recieve occasional
frosts? Or is it the thick trunk that protects it? If the latter is the
case, would other self-heading Philodendrons fare just as well here in
zone 8? Has anyone experimented with species like P. goeldii and P.
williamsii in a similar climate?

Off topic question:

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From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2002.10.11 at 12:59:14(9521)
Hi Adam,

Just a fast comment. Yes, Philodendron bipinnatifidum is native to
southeastern-southern Brazil (as well as Paraguay and Argentina), and
usually occurs in areas with occasional frosts.

Very best wishes,

Eduardo,

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Subject: [aroid-l] Philo cold hardiness and O/T Cyclanthaceae ID
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:29:47 -0400

Here in northern peninsular Florida, Philodendron bipinnatifidum/selloum
normally recovers very quickly after the harder freezes we experience each
year defoliate it. The thick "trunks" never seem to be damaged, and new
growth sprouts from the crown in early spring, and by late spring, the
plant is full again. What makes this plant this cold tolerant? Does its
native range extend into areas or altitudes that recieve occasional frosts?
Or is it the thick trunk that protects it? If the latter is the case, would
other self-heading Philodendrons fare just as well here in zone 8? Has
anyone experimented with species like P. goeldii and P. williamsii in a
similar climate?

Off topic question:

I was at my local garden center a few weeks ago seeing if they had anything
unusual in. I was glad I did. I was passing by the three gallon pot section
that have the usual Ficus and palm varieties, miscellaneous Spathiphyllum
cultivars, etc, and a pair of plants caught my eye. At first, I though they
were the palm Chamaedorea metallica, but they looked different. Upon
bending over for closer inspection, the structure of the stem and dried up
inflorescense revealed it wasn't a palm, and eventually it came to me that
this was a member of the Cyclanthaceae family. I had always been fascinated
with these plants as much as I am with certain types of Aroids, and never
expected to have one available for purchase, especially at this place!
According to the tag, the name given to the three foot high plant was
simply "Jungle Drum $24.99". I would be very interested in figuring out the
proper name of this species, and if anyone is familiar with this group of
plants, I can email a photo for possible ID. The nursery was of no help in
tracking down where it came from, and when I returned to purchase the other
one, someone had already snatched it up. If anyone has any ideas of the
species of this "Jungle Drum", please let me know off list. Also, if anyone
has any members of this family available, please let me know. By the way,
are members of Cyclanthaceae called "Cyclanthids, Cyclanthiads,
Cyclanthoids, or what?

Thanks!
Adam

Eduardo G. Goncalves

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From: Mattlagem at aol.com on 2002.10.11 at 13:09:11(9522)
Adam, I have seen P. bippennatifidum planted year round as far north as
Hilton Head Island South Carolina and are fairly common on the coast of
Georgia as well. I believe this species is from southern Brasil where frosts
and freezes are not unheard of. It would be interesting to find out the cold
hardiness of other typically tropical aroids from that region and adjacent
Argentina. I know at least several other Philos and a few Anthuriums live in
that range. Not sure of the species though. Maybe Eduardo Gonclaves can
give us some clues. Michael M.

From: MossyTrail at cs.com on 2002.10.11 at 14:07:21(9526)
In a message dated 10/11/2002 8:53:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
epiphyte1@earthlink.net writes:

> Also, if

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.10.12 at 05:08:49(9531)
Dear Adam,

>>Here in northern peninsular Florida, Philodendron bipinnatifidum/selloum
normally recovers very quickly after the harder freezes we experience
each year defoliate it. The thick "trunks" never seem to be damaged, and
new growth sprouts from the crown in early spring, and by late spring,
the plant is full again. What makes this plant this cold tolerant? Does
its native range extend into areas or altitudes that recieve occasional
frosts? Or is it the thick trunk that protects it? If the latter is the
case, would other self-heading Philodendrons fare just as well here in
zone 8? Has anyone experimented with species like P. goeldii and P.

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From: Angel Morales angel151 at earthlink.net> on 2002.10.13 at 10:40:20(9538)
"Self header"...what is meant by this term?
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Angel151@earthlink.net

From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2002.10.13 at 19:11:45(9540)
At 01:40 PM 10/13/2002 -0400, Angel Morales wrote:

"Self header"...what is meant by this term?
--
Angel151@earthlink.net

like, it forms a rosette instead of a vine, without any pinching or other
surgical intervention.

herm

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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.10.13 at 19:18:33(9541)
The term 'self-header' or self-heading is applied to a group of
Philodendrons known as the Meconostigma, all have a distinctive growth
habit that is compact, and somewhat like a palm, generally they grow
terrestrially. The ones you might be familiar with in this group are P.
bipinatfidium, P. 'williamsii and P. goeldii, there are several others, all
very popular with collectors.
Julius

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