Artificial trees

From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.10 at 02:06:16(9801) Dear Aroids, Does any of you know of a picture (in a website) of an artificial tree? Guys, I am from Brazil and we have (or had) lots of natural trees everywhere. When you need a tree, is is easiear to browse around and you will find a nice trunk. I can?t even wonder how it would look like a tree made of pipes or foam! I was in Fairchild Gardens in September and I didn?t noticed the presence of this tree. Please, help to calm down the curiosity of a semi-civilized man! Very best wishes, Eduardo. +More _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail

From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.10 at 07:38:32(9802) Here are PICS of some artificial trees I have seen at botanical gardens and other places. This was recent at Atlanta botanical gardens. I believe they were using foam +More to fill the trees up with and covering with cork. http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0178030501.html This is part of the cooling system used in Atlanta's cooler growing greenhouse. This is a large aluminum pipe that was wrapped in tree fern slabs and had ferns and odd orchids all over it. They looks somewhat like tree trunks. http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0171030501.html a real tree used at Atlanta http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0218030501.html A tree at St. Louis this was at an orchid display. Probably a movable tree http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl066.htm another PIC of one http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl050.htm and another http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl051.htm and another http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl090.htm Tree at St. Antonio botanical gardens http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/images/ocr38.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/featuredemail

From: "Craig Allen" callen at fairchildgarden.org> on 2003.01.10 at 22:39:38(9806) Here is a picture though not clear of one of the trees at Fairchild. I just loaded it for a few weeks. Maybe the picture will remind you of the area the tree is in, if you went into the Conservatory. This is the small room before you get to the benched area with potted bromeliads, and the huge pot holding the dormant Mr. Stinky. http://miata.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id 0116&page=7 Craig M. Allen +More Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Dear Aroids, Does any of you know of a picture (in a website) of an artificial tree? Guys, I am from Brazil and we have (or had) lots of natural trees everywhere. When you need a tree, is is easiear to browse around and you will find a nice trunk. I can?t even wonder how it would look like a tree made of pipes or foam! I was in Fairchild Gardens in September and I didn?t noticed the presence of this tree. Please, help to calm down the curiosity of a semi-civilized man! Very best wishes, Eduardo. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail

From: Harry Witmore harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2003.01.11 at 13:44:10(9807) I took some pictures of the trees at Fairchild and Selby. Here's links to the pictures. http://www.cloudjungle.com/gardens/fairchild/ +More http://www.cloudjungle.com/gardens/selby/ If your on dialup as I am they will take a while to load. I really liked these trees at Fairchild and it is in the area you speak of.. That's sort of what I want. At 05:39 PM 1/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: Here is a picture though not clear of one of the trees at Fairchild. I just loaded it for a few weeks. Maybe the picture will remind you of the area the tree is in, if you went into the Conservatory. This is the small room before you get to the benched area with potted bromeliads, and the huge pot holding the dormant Mr. Stinky. http://miata.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id 0116&page=7 Craig M. Allen Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Dear Aroids, Does any of you know of a picture (in a website) of an artificial tree? Guys, I am from Brazil and we have (or had) lots of natural trees everywhere. When you need a tree, is is easiear to browse around and you will find a nice trunk. I can?t even wonder how it would look like a tree made of pipes or foam! I was in Fairchild Gardens in September and I didn?t noticed the presence of this tree. Please, help to calm down the curiosity of a semi-civilized man! Very best wishes, Eduardo. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail Harry Witmore Zone 7 NC Cloud Jungle Art Epiphytes.Org Cloud Jungle ePiphytes

From: "jeff rosenstiel" jjjj4 at attbi.com> on 2003.01.11 at 14:53:39(9808) Craig, Great pic of that tree! I remember seeing that! But I would really! like that Car! Nice!!!! Did you just get it? Dont see many of them up here! Jeff +More MN ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Here is a picture though not clear of one of the trees at Fairchild. I just loaded it for a few weeks. Maybe the picture will remind you of the area the tree is in, if you went into the Conservatory. This is the small room before you get to the benched area with potted bromeliads, and the huge pot holding the dormant Mr. Stinky. http://miata.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id 0116&page=7 Craig M. Allen Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Dear Aroids, Does any of you know of a picture (in a website) of an artificial tree? Guys, I am from Brazil and we have (or had) lots of natural trees everywhere. When you need a tree, is is easiear to browse around and you will find a nice trunk. I can?t even wonder how it would look like a tree made of pipes or foam! I was in Fairchild Gardens in September and I didn?t noticed the presence of this tree. Please, help to calm down the curiosity of a semi-civilized man! Very best wishes, Eduardo. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail

From: "Val Gillman" hortma at totheinter.net> on 2003.01.11 at 17:41:48(9811) Thank you for the incredible photos! I must get to Fairchild soon. I wonder how long a gnarly piece of oak would last in my greenhouse. Has anyone used real wood for a display of this kind? Valerie Gillman +More > I took some pictures of the trees at Fairchild and Selby

From: Harry Witmore harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2003.01.11 at 20:12:47(9812) I have tried dogwood but the bark come away quickly and the wood rots after a few years. I think red cedar would do fine but it's hard to locate a tree that look good. They tend to grow straight up. A gnarly oak would fit the bill but I think the bark would rot quickly. +More At 12:41 PM 1/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: Thank you for the incredible photos! I must get to Fairchild soon. I wonder how long a gnarly piece of oak would last in my greenhouse. Has anyone used real wood for a display of this kind? Valerie Gillman > I took some pictures of the trees at Fairchild and Selby Harry Witmore Zone 7 NC Cloud Jungle Art Epiphytes.Org Cloud Jungle ePiphytes

From: Jonathan Ertelt jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 2003.01.11 at 21:42:09(9814) At 3:12 PM -0500 1/11/03, Harry Witmore wrote: I have tried dogwood but the bark come away quickly and the wood rots after a few years. I think red cedar would do fine but it's hard to locate a tree that look good. They tend to grow straight up. A gnarly oak would fit the bill but I think the bark would rot quickly. +More At 12:41 PM 1/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: Thank you for the incredible photos! I must get to Fairchild soon. I wonder how long a gnarly piece of oak would last in my greenhouse. Has anyone used real wood for a display of this kind? Valerie Gillman > I took some pictures of the trees at Fairchild and Selby As I think that I mentioned in a previous post on this topic, sassafras has a good track record as a fairly hard wood that does not lose it's bark quickly - I've had branches of assafras lasting better than ten years with no visible decay except right where the hanging wire is going through the bark and wood, and not much there. Also, I've used oasge orange, a.k.a. hedge apple, a.k.a. Maclura pomifera as suspended branches, and had them last for better than 15 years with little sign of deterioration, and that with a fairly heavy epiphyte load on them in a greenhouse with periodic misting. Both these trees would work well - the latter does have spines/thorns present, especially apparent on younger branches. Good Growing. Jonathan

From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.11 at 23:10:05(9817) Dear Craig and Harry, Yes, I remember seeing trees like that but I thought they were somewhat different natural trees. I would never wonder that they were artificial! Thanks for the picture!!! Very best wishes, Eduardo. +More Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu To: Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:39:38 -0500 Here is a picture though not clear of one of the trees at Fairchild. I just loaded it for a few weeks. Maybe the picture will remind you of the area the tree is in, if you went into the Conservatory. This is the small room before you get to the benched area with potted bromeliads, and the huge pot holding the dormant Mr. Stinky. http://miata.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id 0116&page=7 Craig M. Allen Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:06 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Dear Aroids, Does any of you know of a picture (in a website) of an artificial tree? Guys, I am from Brazil and we have (or had) lots of natural trees everywhere. When you need a tree, is is easiear to browse around and you will find a nice trunk. I can?t even wonder how it would look like a tree made of pipes or foam! I was in Fairchild Gardens in September and I didn?t noticed the presence of this tree. Please, help to calm down the curiosity of a semi-civilized man! Very best wishes, Eduardo. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/junkmail

From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2003.01.11 at 23:14:30(9818) Oh Brian, Thank you too for the great collection of picts showing artificial trees, almost coast to coast! Yes, I was a sceptic but I have been converted. I do believe in artificial trees!(and I like them) Very best wishes, Eduardo. +More Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:38:32 -0500 Here are PICS of some artificial trees I have seen at botanical gardens and other places. This was recent at Atlanta botanical gardens. I believe they were using foam to fill the trees up with and covering with cork. http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0178030501.html This is part of the cooling system used in Atlanta's cooler growing greenhouse. This is a large aluminum pipe that was wrapped in tree fern slabs and had ferns and odd orchids all over it. They looks somewhat like tree trunks. http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0171030501.html a real tree used at Atlanta http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/0218030501.html A tree at St. Louis this was at an orchid display. Probably a movable tree http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl066.htm another PIC of one http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl050.htm and another http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl051.htm and another http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/pages/stl090.htm Tree at St. Antonio botanical gardens http://aroids.coolfreepages.com/images/ocr38.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?pageþatures/featuredemail _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid963

From: "Val Gillman" hortma at totheinter.net> on 2003.01.12 at 02:52:35(9820) thanks, Harry, if the bark rots it should be good for the plants, right? One more question. How do you secure them initially? I tried a recommended glue with tillandsias and whatever the glue touched, died. The wrapped fishing line leaves something to be desired. Thanks, Valerie +More but the bark come away quickly

From: Harry Witmore harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2003.01.12 at 16:47:50(9824) I have been successful gluing Tillandsias with Goop but when the older leaves begin to turn brown they normally let go. The hope is that they would have attached themselves by then. I have also fishing line but it doesn't look very good as you said. I have also had good success using a lightweight galvanized wire. I wrap it around the base and then thread that down to the object your attaching it to. This has worked well in the past and I have some that are 4 years old which are doing very well done this way. If your afraid of galvanized wire ( I've heard some say it's poison to Bromes) you could use plastic coated wire. As for the rotting bark, well, it's just makes a mess and doesn't help much but the plants on the ground below the tree. +More At 09:52 PM 1/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: thanks, Harry, if the bark rots it should be good for the plants, right? One more question. How do you secure them initially? I tried a recommended glue with tillandsias and whatever the glue touched, died. The wrapped fishing line leaves something to be desired. Thanks, Valerie but the bark come away quickly Harry Witmore Zone 7 NC Cloud Jungle Art Epiphytes.Org Cloud Jungle ePiphytes

From: "Craig Allen" callen at fairchildgarden.org> on 2003.01.13 at 16:55:24(9833) When the Conservatory was rebuilt after Hurricane Andrew we use Buttonwood branches for an epiphyte tree because there wasn't time to construct artificial ones. (I had 2 weeks to get the display build and planted) They lasted about two years, and buttonwood is fairly rot resistant. Then we built the cork trees. The orchid tree is three years old, and the bromeliad tree two years. Around here in Southern Florida oak wood rots even faster. Craig M. Allen +More Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:42 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees Thank you for the incredible photos! I must get to Fairchild soon. I wonder how long a gnarly piece of oak would last in my greenhouse. Has anyone used real wood for a display of this kind? Valerie Gillman > I took some pictures of the trees at Fairchild and Selby

From: "Craig Allen" callen at fairchildgarden.org> on 2003.01.13 at 23:04:00(9835) If you use glue, the best is Liquid Nails. The bromeliads seem to love it. Large plants I attach with screws and wire, something you can't indulge on a live tree. Craig M. Allen +More Conservatory Manager Fairchild Tropical Garden 10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables (Miami), FL 33156 Telephone: 305.667.1651, ext.3320 Fax: 305.667.6930 Email: callen@fairchildgarden.org Web: www.fairchildgarden.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:53 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees thanks, Harry, if the bark rots it should be good for the plants, right? One more question. How do you secure them initially? I tried a recommended glue with tillandsias and whatever the glue touched, died. The wrapped fishing line leaves something to be desired. Thanks, Valerie but the bark come away quickly

From: "Val Gillman" hortma at totheinter.net> on 2003.01.14 at 06:35:22(9839) I could look for sassafras but around here they stay very small and slender. Val +More They lasted about two years, and buttonwood is fairly rot resistant. Then we built the cork trees. The orchid tree is three years old, and the bromeliad tree two years. Around here in Southern Florida oak wood rots even faster.

From: "Bryant, Harry E." HEBryant at scj.com> on 2003.01.14 at 16:28:10(9842) My 2 cents worth. A memory from my youth.... Growing up in Kentucky I seem to remember people using Black Locust for fence posts because they would not rot (may not be applicable to the wet world in Florida). These are fast growing trees, have hard brittle limbs, beautiful thick black bark, and in the spring a fragrant bloom. I could see making a trip to areas where they grow wild and collecting some limbs/trees to use or growing from seed if you have the time ( As I remember they grow 2-3 feet a year in the wild. In a greenhouse they might double that rate.) Our friend in Louisville should have access to large quantities of these trees. What do you think Brian? Harry Bryant +More -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:35 AM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Artificial trees I could look for sassafras but around here they stay very small and slender. Val They lasted about two years, and buttonwood is fairly rot resistant. Then we built the cork trees. The orchid tree is three years old, and the bromeliad tree two years. Around here in Southern Florida oak wood rots even faster.

From: "Val Gillman" hortma at totheinter.net> on 2003.01.16 at 04:46:39(9845) A few years ago our neighbor made a dock with locust poles for the support. These leafed out and started growing. For some reason he cut them down. It looked beautiful to me. Val Gillman +More using Black Locust for fence posts because they would not > rot

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