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  Dracunculus "white form"
From: "Benoit Mouroux" bmouroux at hotmail.com> on 2003.02.18 at 07:54:28(9996)
Hello all,

could anybody help me for my search for dracunculus vulgaris "white form" ?

this form is from "cr?te", a mediterrannean island and seems to be very hard
to find.


From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2003.02.19 at 09:53:49(10000)
Finding is one thing, looking at it another : go to the Dracunculus pages on
the IAS website. The form is yellow, by the way. If you go to Crete, contact
me. I know where it grows.

Lord Secret

From: "Deni Bown" deni at yaxhampark.co.uk> on 2003.02.21 at 09:41:18(10007)
Could I just add that it's always been a mystery to me why this magnificent
aroid isn't in cultivation. I came across a sizeable colony of the pale form
near some polytunnels of tomatoes (i.e. on waste cultivated land) and they
were simply gorgeous - very tall plants with huge spadices, some uniformly
pale green with either black or yellow spadixes, and others were variously
piebald maroon and pale green. Though described by Huxley & Taylor in
Flowers of Greece and the Aegean (1977) as "white-flowered", there were no
white spathes (or yellow ones)among the ones I saw, though perhaps others
colonies show other variants. I have no idea how common this form is, or
whether the colony I came across still exists.

Years ago someone read my account of this variant in my book (Aroids -
Plants of the Arum Family) and contacted me for the location so he could
bring back some seed. He promised me some seed in return for the info but I
never heard from him again.....

There really should be a serious attempt to introduce the pale form into
cultivation. If anyone has, or is likely to have seed, PLEASE let me know!

Deni Bown

From: Steve Marak samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 2003.02.24 at 22:36:05(10012)

I finally had a moment to go back through old disk files ... in 1994, a
then-member of Aroid-L was able to distribute some wild-collected D.
vulgaris seed from Crete (along with Arum purpureospathum). He sent quite
a large amount, collected from a number of populations. Some populations
were, or had plants of, the color variants. The seed was a mix of what was
available, since of course at seed time he didn't know for sure what
plants were of the unusual forms.

I personally didn't get great germination from them, and none of the
surviving plants appear to be anything but the ordinary form - about the
same as the "heirloom" plants I already had. Has anyone else had better
luck with them?

Below is a paragraph he posted at the time about them:

"I know of a healthy population in S. central Crete in the S.-facing mouth
of a large limestone gorge. Here the Dracunculus grows among small trees
and on stony, almost scree-like limestone slopes at about 500 m altitude.
These are hot, Mediterranean conditions. Some plants have the normal dark
purple spathe and spadix, whereas others have an entirely creamy white
spathe but the normal dark purple spadix. The odd few are intermediates
with mottled spathes and orangey spadices. I saw these in flower in April
1989 and later collected seeds in July 1994. Subsequently, these seeds
were distributed among various subscribers to Aroid-L (together with Arum
purpureospathum, also from Crete), and news of their progress appears from
time to time (any more news?). Unfortunately, I do not know of a
commercial source for the white form."


From: "Alan Galloway" alan_galloway at ncsu.edu> on 2003.02.25 at 05:23:44(10013)
I'm glad that you found this info in the archives, as I had planned to
search for this info. Like you, I also received some of these seed.
If I'm not mistaken, theses seed were dispersed by Mr. Nick
Turland. Perhaps he could comment if he is still on the list.
I did have good germination and still have 5 tubers growing in the
garden. I'm hoping that 1 or 2 of them may bloom this spring. The
petioles are much lighter in color than the normal form, although I
don't know if this could be indicative of flower color.

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