Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.11.16 at 07:59:41(10812) Hi all I've been having a very interesting email correspondence regarding A. macrorrhizos Borneo Giant vs. A. robusta and it seems that there are different plants circulating under the name 'Borneo Giant'. For what they're worth here are some observations of A. robusta here in Borneo. The juvenile stage of A. robusta has a rather smooth leaf with the veins on the undesurface not particularly prominent and it can look VERY different to mature plants (not just the size difference!) It is only when the plant begins to mature (c. 1 m or more tall) that the very pronounced veining on the lower leaf surface becomes prominent. There are two ways of distinguishing A. robusta even as a young plant. One is that the undersurface of the leaf is coated with easily removed white powdery wax. The other is that cut tissue turns orange immediately on exposure to air. Mature A. robusta are very easily distinguished from A. macrorrhizos by the way that the inflorescences appear. In A. robusta a large cluster of spathes, up to 40, is grouped in the centre of the plant; A. macrorrhizos produces inflorescences in twos or rarely threes at the base of each leaf. The lower spathe (the tubular part) is white with conspicuous red markings in A. robusta, it is pale green and un-marked in A. macrorrhizos. Hope this helps some Pete

From: "danny wilson" mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2003.11.16 at 20:11:20(10819) Thanks for that info on the two species. I am a big fan of A. rubusta and any information is always greatly appreciated.I am not growing A. robusta at the moment because i can't find any place to aquire one. Does anybody know a place that has them for sale?Thanks again to Peter for the info and thanks in advance for any information on possible sources for A. rubusta.-Danny Wilson >From: "Peter Boyce" >Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu +More >To: >Subject: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:59:41 +0700 > >Hi all > >I've been having a very interesting email correspondence regarding A. macrorrhizos Borneo Giant vs. A. robusta and it seems that there are different plants circulating under the name 'Borneo Giant'. > >For what they're worth here are some observations of A. robusta here in Borneo. > >The juvenile stage of A. robusta has a rather smooth leaf with the veins on the undesurface not particularly prominent and it can look VERY different to mature plants (not just the size difference!) It is only when the plant begins to mature (c. 1 m or more tall) that the very pronounced veining on the lower leaf surface becomes prominent. > >There are two ways of distinguishing A. robusta even as a young plant. One is that the undersurface of the leaf is coated with easily removed white powdery wax. The other is that cut tissue turns orange immediately on exposure to air. > >Mature A. robusta are very easily distinguished from A. macrorrhizos by the way that the inflorescences appear. In A. robusta a large cluster of spathes, up to 40, is grouped in the centre of the plant; A. macrorrhizos produces inflorescences in twos or rarely threes at the base of each leaf. The lower spathe (the tubular part) is white with conspicuous red markings in A. robusta, it is pale green and un-marked in A. macrorrhizos. > >Hope this helps some > >Pete > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95.* * Prices may vary by service area

From: "bamboochik" bamboochik at earthlink.net> on 2003.11.17 at 12:03:32(10821) Try here: http://www.lorescotropicalplants.homestead.com/SuperbTropicalsPage.html Loresco just sent me a quote at 40.00 a gallon but this does not cover shipping nor Phyto cert. so it will be quite costly. Another is: http://www.malesiana.tropicals.com.my/index.html but the possibility of the plant getting to you alive after all the red tape is minimal. ....b.f.n....deb/AL +More ----- Original Message ----- To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Sent: 11/16/2003 2:11:20 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant Thanks for that info on the two species. I am a big fan of A. rubusta and any information is always greatly appreciated. I am not growing A. robusta at the moment because i can't find any place to aquire one. Does anybody know a place that has them for sale? Thanks again to Peter for the info and thanks in advance for any information on possible sources for A. rubusta. -Danny Wilson >From: "Peter Boyce" >Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu >To: >Subject: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:59:41 +0700 > >Hi all > >I've been having a very interesting email correspondence regarding A. macrorrhizos Borneo Giant vs. A. robusta and it seems that there are different plants circulating under the name 'Borneo Giant'. > >For what they're worth here are some observations of A. robusta here in Borneo. > >The juvenile stage of A. robusta has a rather smooth leaf with the veins on the undesurface not particularly prominent and it can look VERY different to mature plants (not just the size difference!) It is only when the plant begins to mature (c. 1 m or more tall) that the very pronounced veining on the lower leaf surface becomes prominent. > >There are two ways of distinguishing A. robusta even as a young plant. One is that the undersurface of the leaf is coated with easily removed white powdery wax. The other is that cut tissue turns orange immediately on exposure to air. > >Mature A. robusta are very easily distinguished from A. macrorrhizos by the way that the inflorescences appear. In A. robusta a large cluster of spathes, up to 40, is grouped in the centre of the plant; A. macrorrhizos produces inflorescences in twos or rarely threes at the base of each leaf. The lower spathe (the tubular part) is white with conspicuous red markings in A. robusta, it is pale green and un-marked in A. macrorrhizos. > >Hope this helps some > >Pete > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95.* * Prices may vary by service area

From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.11.17 at 17:13:30(10822) Hi all I have order more than one time to malaysia tropicals and always receiving the plants in good shape!!I don't know if usa is so longer than belgium.... regards to all +More Dany

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.11.17 at 23:10:19(10825) We ship regualarly to the US and seldom have problems with red-tape and dead PROVIDED the recipient has their paperwork in place for when the plants arrive at US Customs! Pete +More -------------------- Peter Boyce Senior Botanist Malesiana Tropicals 1st Floor, Uplands Shop House Lot 4909, Sect. 64 KTLD Jalan Uplands 93300 Kuching Sarawak, Malaysia 082 419 290 (office) 082 699 160 (nursery) 012 890 3509 (handphone) peterboyce@myjaring.net www.malesiana.tropicals.com.my ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant > Try here: http://www.lorescotropicalplants.homestead.com/SuperbTropicalsPage.html > > Loresco just sent me a quote at 40.00 a gallon but this does not cover shipping nor Phyto cert. so it will be quite costly. > > Another is: http://www.malesiana.tropicals.com.my/index.html but the possibility of the plant getting to you alive after all the red tape is minimal. > > > ....b.f.n....deb/AL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: danny wilson > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Sent: 11/16/2003 2:11:20 PM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant > > > Thanks for that info on the two species. I am a big fan of A. rubusta and any information is always greatly appreciated. > I am not growing A. robusta at the moment because i can't find any place to aquire one. Does anybody know a place that has them for sale? > Thanks again to Peter for the info and thanks in advance for any information on possible sources for A. rubusta. > -Danny Wilson > > > >From: "Peter Boyce" > >Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > >To: > >Subject: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant > >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:59:41 +0700 > > > >Hi all > > > >I've been having a very interesting email correspondence regarding A. macrorrhizos Borneo Giant vs. A. robusta and it seems that there are different plants circulating under the name 'Borneo Giant'. > > > >For what they're worth here are some observations of A. robusta here in Borneo. > > > >The juvenile stage of A. robusta has a rather smooth leaf with the veins on the undesurface not particularly prominent and it can look VERY different to mature plants (not just the size difference!) It is only when the plant begins to mature (c. 1 m or more tall) that the very pronounced veining on the lower leaf surface becomes prominent. > > > >There are two ways of distinguishing A. robusta even as a young plant. One is that the undersurface of the leaf is coated with easily removed white powdery wax. The other is that cut tissue turns orange immediately on exposure to air. > > > >Mature A. robusta are very easily distinguished from A. macrorrhizos by the way that the inflorescences appear. In A. robusta a large cluster of spathes, up to 40, is grouped in the centre of the plant; A. macrorrhizos produces inflorescences in twos or rarely threes at the base of each leaf. The lower spathe (the tubular part) is white with conspicuous red markings in A. robusta, it is pale green and un-marked in A. macrorrhizos. > > > >Hope this helps some > > > >Pete > > > > > > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95.* > * Prices may vary by service area

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From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.11.18 at 05:20:32(10828) Harry This one came through empty. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003

From: Harry Witmore harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2003.11.18 at 23:06:43(10832) Well maybe 3 times is the charm but I will try and post this one more time I ordered from Malasiana Tropicals a year or so back and most things were not in good shape when I got them but they were more than willing to replace them although I have never taken them up on it. The problem seemed to be the packing style as everything was shipped in plastic bags and rotted during the trip. I had all the appropriate paperwork and it arrived without any delays. I would not hesitate to order from them again. They have never been anything but professional and very willing to make things right. I'm the lazy one. Harry Witmore +More Zone 7 NC Cloud Jungle Art Epiphytes.Org Cloud Jungle ePiphytes --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2003.11.19 at 11:02:45(10835) Hi Harry We've had a complete overhaul on put packaging and now sandwisch the plants with thick kitchen towel, thus keeping the leaves away from direct contact with the plastic This seems to work very well. Best wishes Peter +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Alocasia robusta & macrorrhizos Borneo Giant > Well maybe 3 times is the charm but I will try and post this one more time > > I ordered from Malasiana Tropicals a year or so back and most things were > not in good shape when I got them but they were more than willing to > replace them although I have never taken them up on it. The problem seemed > to be the packing style as everything was shipped in plastic bags and > rotted during the trip. I had all the appropriate paperwork and it arrived > without any delays. I would not hesitate to order from them again. They > have never been anything but professional and very willing to make things > right. I'm the lazy one. > > Harry Witmore > Zone 7 NC > Cloud Jungle Art > Epiphytes.Org > Cloud Jungle ePiphytes > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003 >

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