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  Anthuriums from Ecuador
From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.16 at 23:38:12(11280)
Hi All,
Can anyone (particularly Tom Croat or Lynn Hannon if they are reading this)
help with some IDs for three Anthurium species? They were purchased from
Ecuagenera at a show in London and only two were labelled with possible species
names. If you go to: www.members.aol.com/dgiscience/Anthuriums.html you will see
the three species concerned (you MUST spell Anthurium with an uppercase A, the
site is case sensitive).

On the left is a species which would seem close to A. lentii or
A.ovatifolium, it was labelled as A.grubii, a name I cannot trace. The leaves are about six
inches in length, very thick and leathery and glossy on both surfaces, but
could well be young leaves.

In the centre is a species they labelled as A. variegatum, a good species
name but one which I do not have a description of, I fail to see what is
variegated if it IS this species! The petioles are strikingly red. The leaves are
about ten inches in length.

On the right is an unnamed species which I at first thought was
A.panduriforme but the leaves are more slender and the leaf surface is satiny-shimmering
rather than glossy. The leaves are about ten inches in length. It looks
similar also to A.dragonopterum but the veins seem much further apart.

Any suggestions much appreciated!

Geoffrey Kibby

From: Aroideae at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 00:48:51(11281)
hi geoffrey,
nice to hear from you, even indirectly. tom is in europe and might not
be on-line till he returns, so i'll do my best. A. grubii (think it might be 2
"b's") is a new species from the amazon side of the Andes in Ecuador. no
doubt tom IDd this for pepe while he was at ecuagenera. you might find it on

A. variegatum gets its name from the juvenile leaves which i'm told are
variegated. i've not seen the juveniles.

i'm sorry, but i have no idea what the 3rd plant is.


From: Dan Levin <levin at pixar.com> on 2004.03.17 at 01:42:12(11283)

If I may offer a few comments about your Anthurium plants;
I have been growing 2 of the very same beasts in my small
greenhouse (plus many more plants from Ecuagenera) for
a year or so. Here's what to possibly expect:

The first species (A. grubii) will easily exceed 1 m. in height,
with the leaves & petioles each contributing equally. It is a
gregarious grower for me and seems happy as a terrestrial.
As an adult the thick, stiff leaves are carried strictly upright atop
massive petioles; no bending or flopping as in your picture!
My plant seems to be ever blooming. The rather large spathes
are greenish tinged with red, with faint darker green longitudinal
stripes; held perpendicularly to the spadix or slightly reflexed.
Inflorescences reach to the leaf bases or just below. Spadices
are golden in color changing to red prior to anthesis (hmm, have
I got that backwards?); the spadix is quite large (6" +) and when in
its gold phase, is reminiscent of an ear of baby corn.

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 07:58:02(11287)
Many thanks to Lynn (nice to hear from you too Lynn, I havent't been active
on the List for a while, too many other things taking up growing time!) and to
Dan for their very helpful and comprehensive replies - exciting stuff! I have
done very well with plants from Ecuagenera and have a number of beautiful
Anthuriums from them which I hope will go on to set seed in the future which I
will do my best to distribute.

By the way: some years ago I distributed a large number of berries/seeds of
Anthurium trinerve to many of the members of this List. If anyone grew these on
successfully and have seeds in return I would be very grateful, I have
managed to kill off my parent plant (one of my very few Anthurium fatalities...) and
of course did not grow on any seedlings of my own.... My new address is given

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 21:37:46(11291)
My thanks to Michael Riley and others who have given such detailed info on my
mystery Anthuriums, the third species in particular, with basal lobes and
velvety leaves is - as they said - incredibly beautiful. Another plant I picked
up from Ecuagenera was Anthurium marmoratum, a species I have wanted to acquire
for years. When mature it is superb and equal in my view to A. waroqueanum
and surprisingly ignored in the literature. Perhaps it is difficult to grow? I
have placed a pic of a mature A. marmoratum I photographed in Stockholm, Sweden
on my site at: for anyone who
wishes to admire.

From: David Thornton <dave at dave-aroid.demon.co.uk> on 2004.03.17 at 22:14:42(11292)
In message <133.2c83c6f0.2d8a1f2a@aol.com>, GeoffAroid@aol.com writes

Dear Geoffrey,

Does ecuagenera have a web site ? I wouldn't mind some exotic aroids


From: "Michael Pascall" <mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.18 at 02:58:57(11293)
Tom Croat has written a fantastic article about his last trip to Ecuador ,
and it is the feature story in the next Newsletter of the Int. Aroid Soc. so
you may very well find out the name of that mystery Anthurium as Tom has
many pictures taken in habitat.

Michael Pascall,

From: "Tropical Plant Resource" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.03.18 at 12:13:27(11295)

Thank you for sharing. I concur, albeit just a photograph, you are rivaling
the beauty of A. waroqueanum.


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