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  A. titanum on eBay
From: "Alex Burgess" <alexcburgess at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.20 at 03:29:25(11308)
Hi! I am very new to this list. I noticed this item on eBay (per attached
photo) and just read your recent thread about another such auction where the
plant was actually A. Konjac. Is this another mistaken identity case or are
the plants in the picture too young to tell? Hope it is right because I
bought it! I am not expert on amorphophallus. Should I just grow it for
six to ten years with my fingers crossed? Any advice appreciated and thanks

From: "Alex Burgess" <alexcburgess at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.20 at 12:56:51(11309)
Hi all! Me again. Here is the eBay link that shows the photo:



From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" <hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.03.20 at 13:16:29(11310)
They look as if they could be titanums but they are whimpy specimens!
Normally seedlings of titanum have straight petioles with broad leaflets
from the start. These look unhealthy with deformed leaflets and petioles. It
might mean that they are not real titanums but it is not really visible from
the picture. I'd be careful not to pay too much for a possible


From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.20 at 14:53:11(11311)
They might have no gotten enough water, fertilizer, warmth or light when they sprouted. I pissed off one of my konjacs last year and it looked somewhat like that. I gave it what it neaded later on in its growth and it perked up a bit. They look like titanum to me.-Danny Wilson
>From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)"
>Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
From: "Alex Burgess" <alexcburgess at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.20 at 15:06:22(11312)
Thank you very much!

FWIW the seller, one Alasdair Macleod, a.k.a. Gothiclion1, claims "These
leaflefts have been grown from bulbs and are therefore more hardy than those
grown from tissue culture." From what I have read of previous threads, you
are the expert on this subject, so I will trust your view. I already paid
$40, which seems quite a bit less than others have asked for the titanum
(and is why I purchased) although it could be high for a more common type.
I can't back out of the transaction, so I will try to grow the
amorphophallus, with fingers and now toes crossed, and later I should be
able to show a better picture of a more mature plant. The plant has not yet

Thank you again,


From: "danny wilson" <mudwasp_ at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.20 at 22:03:39(11316)
It is indeed quite a bit less. I paid $200. for mine...... My titanum grows pretty easily, i grow it in my bedroom, so dont worry too much!-Danny Wilson
>From: "Alex Burgess"
>Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
From: "plantsman" <plantsman at prodigy.net> on 2004.03.20 at 22:32:39(11317)
I think I would asking the provenance of the seeds these were grown from
before I'd pay anything. There's not been many of them available in recent
years to those outside of select botanical institutions.

David Sizemore

From: "Tropical Plant Resource" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.03.21 at 04:33:12(11318)
Hello Alex. The A. titanum we purchased last year, viewed in person, had a
similar wimpy appearance; they were tissue cultured. Healthy, strong
appearance one day and "permanently" dormant the next; that was
approximately 6 months later. No bulb developed.

It is stated yours was grown from a bulb, you have a gtreater chance at
success. GOOD LUCK...Christian

From: Tony Avent <tony at plantdelights.com> on 2004.03.21 at 09:27:08(11319)

There has been quite a bit of mis-information recently about
Amorphophallus titanum propagation. First, there is no difference in the
quality of resulant plants whether the plants are propagated from tissue
culture, leaf cuttings, or seed. Second, it does matter how well and how
large the plants have been grown since propagation. Third, tissue culture
has only been successful on a very limited basis and will probably never be
done enough to get the price down to what most people consider reasonable.
Weaning plants from tissue culture can be very difficult and can easily
result in the loss of an entire crop. Most of the top commercial tissue
culture labs in America have tried this crop and ten years later only a few
hundred plants have ever reached the public.

We have grown plants from all three methods and find that once the plants
reach 8-12" in height, they are fine to sell. At this size, our loss rate
is zero. Below this size the bulb is virtually non-existant, then stem is
limp, and plant can be easily killed with even the slightest of improper
care...usually overwatering. I hope this helps.

From: "Tropical Plant Resource" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.03.21 at 11:07:32(11320)
Thank you Tony; yes your information was quite valuable...Christian

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From: "Bryant, Susan L." <SLBryant at scj.com> on 2004.03.22 at 04:58:58(11321)

They look like tissue culture plants to me too-


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