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Monstera with glaucous spadices
From: Tom Croat <croat at mobot.org> on 1997.01.08 at 22:05:22(83)|
Todd and Peter: I don't really know which of you this message is going
to but there are species of Monstera with glaucous spadices but Monstera
can not be easily determined from a brief description. Even a photo
would be helpful.
> Saw your mail about Rhaphidophora vs Philodendron and felt driven to
> put finger to keyboard. Rhaphidophora hasn't been 'retired' in favour of
> Philodendron. Both are 'good' genera and are, in fact, not even closely
> related (other than both being in Araceae).
> Rhaphidophora is in tribe Monstereae along with Monstera, Scindapsus,
> Rhodospatha, Amydrium, Alloschemome, Stenospermation and
> Epipremnum. Tribe Monstereae is grouped with tribes Spathiphylleae
> (Spathiphyllum & Holochlamys), Anadendreae (Anadendrum) and
> Heteropsideae (Heteropsis) in subfamily Monsteroideae.
> Philodendron is the only genus in tribe Philodendreae and is most
> closely related to tribes Homalomeneae (Furtadoa and Homalomena) and
> Anubiadeae (Anubias) and probably also linked to tribe Culcasieae
> (Culcasia and Cercestis (including Rhektophyllum)), and belongs to
> subfamily Aroideae.
> Having bored most subscribers silly with the above, the question
> remains as to what the plant in Huntington is.
> >From your description of the leaves and, especially, the glaucous
> infructescences, I would GUESS that the plant IS Rhaphidophora
> decursiva (tropical and subtropical Himalaya, extending to N.
> Thailand, N. Vietnam, Laos and 'tropical' China). However, I'd need to see a
> specimen of the leaf and a ripe infructescence to be sure. If it is
> a Rhaphidophora then each ovary of the fruit would contain many small
> ellipsoid seeds with a smooth, rather brittle, seed coat.
> Another possibility is that it could be Epipremnum pinnatum is one
> of its MANY manifestations. Plants of E. pinnatum from Cebu,
> Philippines, are notably glaucous, especially the infructescences.
> However, the lack of leaf lamina perforations doesn't support this
> being E. pinnatum, which is invariably perforate. Alternatively, it
> might be a Monstera. Although I am not aware of a species with
> glaucous infructescences, I don't know Monstera at all well and
> you'd be best asking Tom Croat if there are any Monstera that might
> fit the bill.
> P. Boyce
> RBG Kew
From: Endangered Species <especies at ix.netcom.com> on 1997.01.09 at 18:24:26(87)|
At 04:04 PM 1/8/97 -0600, Tom Croat wrote:
>Todd and Peter: I don't really know which of you this message is going
>to but there are species of Monstera with glaucous spadices but Monstera
>can not be easily determined from a brief description. Even a photo
>would be helpful.
> Tom Croat|
I sure hope I guessed right R decursiva becuz the catalog has gone to press
and I am easilly humiliated by this sort of thing.
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