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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.06 at 10:06:57(13398)
should A. Paeonifolius , after dying down, stay in
the pot?

Thanks,
Noel

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From: "Marge Talt" mtalt at hort.net> on 2005.10.08 at 13:20:26(13403)
should A. Paeonifolius , after dying down, stay in the pot?

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Well, I'm no expert, but have kept mine in it's pot - allowed to go

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From: Ronmchatton at aol.com on 2005.10.09 at 06:08:57(13406)
A. paeoniifolius is a really strong species. While you can leave it
in the pot while resting (absolutely dry) you don't have to. Last season I
kept a dormant 40 pound corm sitting out of the pot on the corner of my office
desk until it flowered with no ill effects.

Ron McHatton

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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.09 at 07:39:16(13407)
thanks so much for the advice!

Noel

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From: bonaventure at optonline.net on 2005.10.09 at 08:12:42(13408)
I drag mine inside just before night temps go in the 30's, cram it into a corner of the living room, stop watering, and wait 2 months for the leaves to die down. Then I wait another 2 months to allow the rest of the soil to dry out, after which I unpot, check the tuber(s), and then hang them in an open plastic shopping bag from a nail on my basement ceiling rafters until I see shoots poking out in late May/ early June.

Bonaventure Magrys

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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.09 at 09:22:41(13409)
thanks so much for the info. Alas, my desk is already piled high with
^&$% so I guess it will have no company over the winter.

All on this site are so helpful to this novice!

Noel

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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.09 at 09:25:03(13410)
Thanks so much for the info---------have received several invaluable
answers! All agree.

Noel

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From: Ken Mosher ken at spatulacity.com> on 2005.10.09 at 10:28:48(13411)
Bonaventure,

I think you're lucky not to have dead Am. paeoniifolius!

Many of us in the northern climates, NJ certainly included, have had
persistent and very serious rot problems with paeoniifolius tubers when
they are allowed to be cold and wet at the same time.

I would absolutely never allow mine to stay outdoors or receive any
water once nighttime temps drop below 60 (at the coldest). Last year ago
I lost every single paeoniifolius except one because of cold/wet
conditions. At the time I had little option since my greenhouse wasn't
covered until November, but this year the watering of my new ones is
being closely controlled as end-of-season approaches. And they've been
in the greenhouse all season. The more experience I gain growing in CT
the more I find that only a few are suited for outdoor growing this far
north.

One more mention about plastic bags and amorphs: don't do it! I don't
care if they're open or not. The only plastic I'd ever *consider* would
be an onion bag - the mesh kind. I keep all mine only in paper bags.

-Ken Mosher

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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.09 at 15:37:57(13415)
Thanks so much.
Mine has been outside all summer and thrived. Don't know how old it is, so
am hoping for "bloom" next year. How old (big) do they have to be before
producing the "lovely"?
We have a fab pot rack from which I intend to hang the tuber in an onion
bag.
Again- thanks for so many answers to this novices questions!

Noel

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From: "D. Scott Taylor" staylor at brevardparks.com> on 2005.10.10 at 07:42:28(13420)
The general recommendation is to store dry, so if kept in the pot, keep the soil dry. I prefer out of the soil.D. Scott TaylorOn Oct 6, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Noel Crisler wrote: should A. Paeonifolius , after dying down, stay in the pot? ? Thanks, Noel ncrisler@cox.net_______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________
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From: "Noel Crisler" ncrisler at cox.net> on 2005.10.10 at 09:19:01(13424)
thanks so much for the info- I'm just learning
about this "lovely" family!

Noel

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From: "hanson, skip" shanson at emc.com> on 2005.10.10 at 13:06:44(13425)
Well
I believe we are zone 9. Home is in Aptos CA. it's on the coast so the
zones are weird.

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From: bonaventure at optonline.net on 2005.10.11 at 22:15:22(13433)
Thanks Ken,
Outside now it is about 60F and has been raining much, on and off, for 4-5 days now. No ill effects on the 7 stalks in their converted pickle tub full of 1 part Pro-mix : 1 part coarse perlite. I am watching very closely. I allow the tuber to dry off completely with all soil removed before hanging it in the shopping bag, and check it at least monthly by completely removing it. So far no excess moisture had formed between the tuber skin and the plastic bag.

Mossambicencis(swynnertonii) just down was emergency unpotted from this same kind of mix but was found to be fine with a large tuber and a medusa-like 7 zigzagging stolon-offsets (reply privately to bonaventure@optonline.net for offsets).

Konjac, yunnanensis, dunnii, and bulbifer in the garden started to collapse before the rains started and ended our long late summer drought here in New Jersey, but I've learned from bad experience that I will have to dig up the bulbifer before winter. Konjac and yunnanensis have bloomed in spring in the garden just before their leaves come up in early summer.

Lewelii and, new this year henryi and corrugatus, are in smaller pots, sitting on the soil under the great paeoniifolius leaves and are being watched closely also for the relative chill affecting their leaves, but so far so good. Plus, I'll have to take the whole pot in as a unit because their roots grew through the drainage holes into the soil of the paeoniifolius pot. These will be stored dry in their respective pots due to the smaller tuber sizes. Only Synandrospadix vermitoxus I have lost to rot resting in a pot of loose dust-dry medium.

Bonaventure

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