Titanum does NOT produce offsets!

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2006.05.22 at 13:06:01(14274) Gentlemen and people, Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of their second year. Lord P. +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.05.22 at 20:59:41(14278) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM To : "Aroid-l" Subject : [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! Picky, picky, picky! Julius +More Gentlemen and people, Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of their second year. Lord P. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "StroWi at t-online.de" StroWi at t-online.de> on 2006.05.23 at 07:20:07(14285) Julius, we all know that his name is programm in manyfold ways. However, Lord P(icky) I didn't know yet............ :-) Good growing, Bernhard. +More Dollbergen, Germany -----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:59:41 +0200 > Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > From: "Julius Boos" > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > > > From : Wilbert Hetterscheid > Reply-To : Discussion of aroids > Sent : Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM > To : "Aroid-l" > Subject : [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > Picky, picky, picky! > > Julius > > > > > Gentlemen and people, > > Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon > described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious > buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side > tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from > that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of their > second year. > > Lord P. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "StroWi at t-online.de" StroWi at t-online.de> on 2006.05.23 at 07:51:28(14286) Aroiders, the description of Lord P(recise) reminds me of an information I got from Bjoern Malkmus (www.rareplants.de) some years ago. He took a deep breath and destroyed the central bud of his titanum with a knife which resulted in the formation of 3 or 4 adventitious buds and splitting of the tuber in the following vegetative growth preriod. Happy cutting and splitting, Bernhard. +More Dollbergen, Germany -----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:59:41 +0200 > Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > From: "Julius Boos" > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > > Gentlemen and people, > > Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon > described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious > buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side > tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from > that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of their > second year. > > Lord P. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2006.05.23 at 13:38:11(14291) O.k., I'll admit, it is totally unimportant whteher titanum does or does not produce offsets. Sorry Prof. dr. dr. dr. Boos INC,FLP,ERT,YUH,OIK,ERD. Your totally unworthy servant, Lord P. +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Julius Boos > Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2006 23:00 > Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Onderwerp: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > > > >From : Wilbert Hetterscheid > Reply-To : Discussion of aroids > Sent : Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM > To : "Aroid-l" > Subject : [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > Picky, picky, picky! > > Julius > > > >>Gentlemen and people, > > Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The > phenomenon described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development > of adventitious buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are > real side tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and > separating from that tuber by themselves in their first year, > or at the start of their second year. > > Lord P. > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.05.23 at 22:30:45(14297) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:38 PM To : "'Discussion of aroids'" Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! Dear Wilbert, (A.K.A. "Lord Phallus") No problem--- as usual, as you and I have previously discussed, it is merly differences in language/improper usage of "terminology", in this case by myself, that caused the problems! What I was TRYING to say (but I explained it very badly!!) was that, contary to literature and common belief, A. titanum can and does divide itself if certain conditions exist or are provided. I should have got into more precise detail, or left it to your goodself to properly explain the correct usage of 'offsets' vs. 'divisions', adventitious bulbs', 'splitting' etc. In Craig's case the original tuber was made to 'split' or divide itself into several/many smaller tubers, which was a boon in distributing this rare plant back then when no seeds were available, and today is a useful thing to be aware of if one wants more plants out of your one A. titanum tuber!! ! To my mind, Craig`s multi-tubers were 'offsets', but you were correct when your explanation and the proper "terminology', kindly provided by you, clearly shows them NOT to be 'true' offsets, but 'divisions'! In the future I think I`ll stick to discussing REAL Aroids, like Urospatha, Anaphyllopsis, Dracontioides, etc., not those stinking, UGLY want-to-be-aroids such as Amorphophallus and Pseudodracontium!! The Best, and Good Growing all, Julius :--)> +More O.k., I'll admit, it is totally unimportant whteher titanum does or does not produce offsets. Sorry Prof. dr. dr. dr. Boos INC,FLP,ERT,YUH,OIK,ERD. Your totally unworthy servant, Lord P. << -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Julius Boos Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2006 23:00 Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Onderwerp: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! >From : Wilbert Hetterscheid Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM To : "Aroid-l" Subject : [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! Picky, picky, picky! Julius >>Gentlemen and people, Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of their second year. Lord P. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l v ? 2006 Microsoft TERMS OF USE Advertise TRUSTe Approved Privacy Statement GetNetWise Anti-Spam Policy _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "StroWi at t-online.de" StroWi at t-online.de> on 2006.05.29 at 19:49:07(14320) Dear Julius, Dear Wilbert, without intending to interfere in a personal dispute, I am glad to read that the differences on that topic are cleared! ( And I will overlook the unqualified remark by J on the only relevant aroids with continetal generosity and leniency...) BUT, my dear Lord P(ropagator), I have to contradict to your opinion. At least to me it is not unimportant wether A.t. produces offsets or not. +More If it would, many more people could cultivate this interesting plant (I mean people other than J.) and I could stop my humble attempts in tissue culturing A.t. immediately! (I guess we agree that forced splitting of a plant is not what we call propagation (in big numbers) in horticulture...) BTW, are you aware that the triple flower titanum in Bonn has it's origin in the tissue cultures of Prof. Kohlenbach in 1986 and came to the Bonn Botancal Garden in 1988? Good growing, Bernhard. -----Original Message----- > Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 00:30:45 +0200 > Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > From: "Julius Boos" > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > > > From : Wilbert Hetterscheid > Reply-To : Discussion of aroids > Sent : Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:38 PM > To : "'Discussion of aroids'" > Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > Dear Wilbert, (A.K.A. "Lord Phallus") > > No problem--- as usual, > In the future I think I`ll stick to discussing REAL Aroids, like > Urospatha, Anaphyllopsis, Dracontioides, etc., not those stinking, > UGLY > want-to-be-aroids such as Amorphophallus and Pseudodracontium!! > The Best, and Good Growing all, > Julius :--)> > > > > > O.k., I'll admit, it is totally unimportant whteher titanum does > > > or does not > > > > produce offsets. Sorry Prof. dr. dr. dr. Boos INC,FLP,ERT,YUH,OIK,ERD. > > Your totally unworthy servant, > Lord P. << > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Julius Boos > > Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2006 23:00 > > Aan: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > Onderwerp: RE: [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > > > > > > > > > > From : Wilbert Hetterscheid > > Reply-To : Discussion of aroids > > Sent : Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM > > To : "Aroid-l" > > Subject : [Aroid-l] Titanum does NOT produce offsets! > > > > Picky, picky, picky! > > > > Julius > > > > > > > > Gentlemen and people, > > > > Amorphophallus titanum does NOT produce offsets. The phenomenon > > described bt Craig Allen is indeed the development of adventitious > > buds into new tubers (splitting). Offsets are real side > > tubers/rhizomes developing on the mother tuber and separating from > > that tuber by themselves in their first year, or at the start of > > their second year. > > > > Lord P. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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