Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.06.03 at 21:26:12(14327) There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name. Thanks! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Ryan Wachtl ryanwachtl at sbcglobal.net> on 2006.06.04 at 03:44:57(14328) I checked out the ebay auction. Looks to me like there are selling Anthurium titanium not titanum which I I could not find a record of myself. Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest wrote: There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name.Thanks!Steve Lucaswww.ExoticRainforest.com_______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l_______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list +More Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Tom Vincze philofan at philodendron.org> on 2006.06.04 at 03:56:15(14329) Steve, I did a Google on it, and the first link that came up is: http://www.aroid.org/genera/anthurium/belolonchium/titanium.html Regards, Tom Vincze +More There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.06.04 at 05:23:32(14330) Thanks to both Tom and Ryan. Earlier this evening I stumbled upon the same answer myself. The confusion is the seller makes a point of it being similar in name to "Amor. titanum" so it did not appear to be a spelling error. I believe now the seller honestly believes the plant is "titanum" instead of "titanium". But at least we know what she's selling! Thanks! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforet.com ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum Steve, I did a Google on it, and the first link that came up is: http://www.aroid.org/genera/anthurium/belolonchium/titanium.html Regards, Tom Vincze There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Craig Presnell" jcpresnell at earthlink.net> on 2006.06.04 at 10:45:19(14331) Hi, If it is the like one I got from Gator Gardens, look under A. titanium. I believe that is the correct spelling. Craig +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Denis Rotolante" denis at skg.com> on 2006.06.05 at 21:04:05(14337) Anthurium titanum is synonymous with A. xanthosomafolium as far as I know.. However, At one time Silver Krome Gardens grew an anthurium we thought was A. titanum that we got from Dr. Birdsey (who possibly collected it in Mexico). It turns out Dr. Birdsey had misidentified it and what we sold as Anthurium titanum/ xanthosomafolium was actually a new species which Dr. Croat named Anthurium faustmirandae for the original collector Faustino Miranda. The real A. titanum is a higher altitude species and probably doesn't do well in the warm summer time temperatures at sea level. A. faustmirandae is a from the Atlantic coastal plain in Mexico and grows well in homestead in hot conditions. Anyway, faustmirandae gets huge thick, heartshaped leaves each leaf is about 3 feet by 3 feet and it will make a good patio, atrium or landscape specimen plant or a good substitute for an umbrella if you are caught in the rain without one(Dr Birdsey said that was how the natives used it.) not really a good plant for an apartment, a hone or a small greenhouse as it will eat up all your space. I suspect that if there are plants out there in cyberspace advertised as Anthurium titanum that they are probably great great great grand children of Dr. Birdsey's plants whose seedling we sold to nurserymen, garden centers other Aroiders at shows misidentified as Anthurium titanum until we discovered the error. I have never seen any true Anthurium titanum seed or plants sold anywhere... Denis +More Silver Krome Gardens Homestead Florida -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:26 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.06.05 at 21:28:45(14338) Thanks! The seller admitted she was incorrect. The actual name is Anthurium titanium with an "i". Anthurium "titanum" does not exist scientifically. Anthurium titanium (with an i) can be found on both TROPICOS and The International Plant Names Index. The photos on TROPICOS and scientific description match the plant being sold exactly. Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum > Anthurium titanum is synonymous with A. xanthosomafolium as far as I> know.. However, At one time Silver Krome Gardens grew an anthurium we> thought was A. titanum that we got from Dr. Birdsey (who possibly> collected it in Mexico). It turns out Dr. Birdsey had misidentified it> and what we sold as Anthurium titanum/ xanthosomafolium was actually a> new species which Dr. Croat named Anthurium faustmirandae for the> original collector Faustino Miranda. The real A. titanum is a higher> altitude species and probably doesn't do well in the warm summer time> temperatures at sea level. A. faustmirandae is a from the Atlantic> coastal plain in Mexico and grows well in homestead in hot conditions.> Anyway, faustmirandae gets huge thick, heartshaped leaves each leaf is> about 3 feet by 3 feet and it will make a good patio, atrium or> landscape specimen plant or a good substitute for an umbrella if you are> caught in the rain without one(Dr Birdsey said that was how the natives> used it.) not really a good plant for an apartment, a hone or a small> greenhouse as it will eat up all your space. I suspect that if there are> plants out there in cyberspace advertised as Anthurium titanum that> they are probably great great great grand children of Dr. Birdsey's> plants whose seedling we sold to nurserymen, garden centers other> Aroiders at shows misidentified as Anthurium titanum until we discovered> the error. I have never seen any true Anthurium titanum seed or plants> sold anywhere...> > Denis> Silver Krome Gardens> Homestead Florida> > -----Original Message-----> From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic> Rainforest> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:26 PM> To: Discussion of aroids> Subject: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum> > > There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked > TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not > registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The> International > Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such> a > plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo> name.> > Thanks!> > Steve Lucas> www.ExoticRainforest.com> > _______________________________________________> Aroid-l mailing list> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l> > > _______________________________________________> Aroid-l mailing list> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l> _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.06.05 at 22:57:00(14342) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Monday, June 5, 2006 9:04 PM To : "'Discussion of aroids'" Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum Dear All and Denis, Thanks, Denis for this detailed clarification on this most wonderful giant species of Anthrium, it has always been a favorite of mine. I well remember Monroe`s HUGE specimen and where it grew in his wonderful garden! Everything you say about it, Denis, is so true! I believe I saw that it was in tissue culture, being sold w/ some pseudo, fancy-assed name, but may be wrong on this. I know Dewey Fisk offers seed/seedlings of it and many other rare species from time to time. Good Growing, Julius +More Anthurium titanum is synonymous with A. xanthosomafolium as far as I know.. However, At one time Silver Krome Gardens grew an anthurium we thought was A. titanum that we got from Dr. Birdsey (who possibly collected it in Mexico). It turns out Dr. Birdsey had misidentified it and what we sold as Anthurium titanum/ xanthosomafolium was actually a new species which Dr. Croat named Anthurium faustmirandae for the original collector Faustino Miranda. The real A. titanum is a higher altitude species and probably doesn't do well in the warm summer time temperatures at sea level. A. faustmirandae is a from the Atlantic coastal plain in Mexico and grows well in homestead in hot conditions. Anyway, faustmirandae gets huge thick, heartshaped leaves each leaf is about 3 feet by 3 feet and it will make a good patio, atrium or landscape specimen plant or a good substitute for an umbrella if you are caught in the rain without one(Dr Birdsey said that was how the natives used it.) not really a good plant for an apartment, a hone or a small greenhouse as it will eat up all your space. I suspect that if there are plants out there in cyberspace advertised as Anthurium titanum that they are probably great great great grand children of Dr. Birdsey's plants whose seedlings we sold to nurserymen, garden centers other Aroiders at shows misidentified as Anthurium titanum until we discovered the error. I have never seen any true Anthurium titanum seed or plants sold anywhere... Denis Silver Krome Gardens Homestead Florida -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 5:26 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Plant being sold as Anthurium titanum There is a plant being sold on eBay as "Anthurium titanum". I checked TROPICOS and the International Plant Names Index and that name is not registered. The seller says it is listed as a specie by The International Aroid Society but I can't find it. Does anyone know anything about such a plant and if in fact the name used is correct or a synonym or pseudo name. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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