'New' commercial aroids in pots

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.12.17 at 15:01:32(14951) Dear Friends, In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and sold by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly cordate purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is the texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each leaf`s end. Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong to?? Good Growing. Julius +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Harry Witmore" <harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2006.12.17 at 18:47:56(14953) The second one is a patented Philo called Brazil I believe. http://morningdewtropical.com/images/gallery/Philodendron-Brazil-10.jpg Harry Witmore +More Cloud Jungle Epiphytes www.cloudjungle.com -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Julius Boos Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:02 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots Dear Friends, In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and sold by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly cordate purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is the texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each leaf`s end. Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong to?? Good Growing. Julius _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Enid" <enigo at bellsouth.net> on 2006.12.18 at 00:56:19(14958) The first sounds like Piper ornatum. Looks like a vining Philo from a distance and has recently shown up in Tissue culture and seems to be at many foliage growers lately. http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=Piper%20ornatum&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Enid +More Natural Selections Exoticswww.NSExotics.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com on 2006.12.18 at 03:24:37(14959) Julius, The second plant you described sounds alot like the plant going around as Philodendron 'Brasil'. However It seems to be quite common in cultivation so Im sure its not what you are talking about. Both sound really exciting though. Has definately peeked my curiosity! BTW, has anyone seen the plant Rhodospatha "jet streak" in the USA? I know its sold occasionally in Australia but never seen in here. +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Denis Rotolante" <denis at skg.com> on 2006.12.18 at 20:23:06(14962) Title: Message They probly bought it from us and are growing it for themselves. It is a neat plant. Bill Rotolante +More -----Original Message-----From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of EnidSent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:56 PMTo: aroid-l@gizmoworks.comSubject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots The first sounds like Piper ornatum. Looks like a vining Philo from a distance and has recently shown up in Tissue culture and seems to be at many foliage growers lately. http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=Piper%20ornatum&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Enid Natural Selections Exoticswww.NSExotics.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2006.12.18 at 23:28:53(14963) I think 'Brasil' is not so new cultivar, I saw it in a magazine in 2002, here's the scanned photo: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/philodendron/brasil.htm Marek Argent +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots The second one is a patented Philo called Brazil I believe. http://morningdewtropical.com/images/gallery/Philodendron-Brazil-10.jpg Harry Witmore Cloud Jungle Epiphytes www.cloudjungle.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Julius Boos Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:02 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots Dear Friends, In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and sold by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly cordate purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is the texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each leaf`s end. Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong to?? Good Growing. Julius _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2006.12.18 at 23:44:38(14964) Rhaphidophora cryptantha looks very similar to Piper ornatum. David Scerberich has a photo in his +More page http://dscherberich.free.fr/MONTET/rhaphcryptantha.html Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Enid To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:56 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots The first sounds like Piper ornatum. Looks like a vining Philo from a distance and has recently shown up in Tissue culture and seems to be at many foliage growers lately. http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=Piper%20ornatum&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi Enid Natural Selections Exoticswww.NSExotics.com _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2006.12.20 at 18:47:01(14969) Marek: Could this not just be a form of Rhaphidophora aureus? Tom -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of abri1973@wp.pl +More Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:29 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots I think 'Brasil' is not so new cultivar, I saw it in a magazine in 2002, here's the scanned photo: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/philodendron/brasil.htm Marek Argent ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots > The second one is a patented Philo called Brazil I believe. > http://morningdewtropical.com/images/gallery/Philodendron-Brazil-10.jpg > > > Harry Witmore > Cloud Jungle Epiphytes > www.cloudjungle.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] > On Behalf Of Julius Boos > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:02 AM > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots > > Dear Friends, > > In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and > sold > by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging > pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly > cordate > > purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is > the > texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of > something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! > The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or > tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center > of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each > leaf`s end. > Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong > to?? > > Good Growing. > > Julius > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: > 12/16/2006 > 5:39 PM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: > 12/16/2006 > 5:39 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Bluesea <chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2006.12.21 at 18:17:37(14977) 'Brazil' does not appear to be a Rhaphidophora. It seems to be a form of P. hederaceum (scandens), ie. +More P. hederaceum f. 'Brazil'. Russ Tom Croat wrote: Marek: Could this not just be a form of Rhaphidophora aureus? Tom -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of abri1973@wp.pl Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:29 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots I think 'Brasil' is not so new cultivar, I saw it in a magazine in 2002, here's the scanned photo: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/philodendron/brasil.htm Marek Argent ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots The second one is a patented Philo called Brazil I believe. http://morningdewtropical.com/images/gallery/Philodendron-Brazil-10.jpg Harry Witmore Cloud Jungle Epiphytes www.cloudjungle.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Julius Boos Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:02 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots Dear Friends, In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and sold by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly cordate purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is the texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each leaf`s end. Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong to?? Good Growing. Julius _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2006.12.21 at 23:35:43(14984) Tom, look at the cataphylls. This is a Philodendron. Marek ----- Original Message ----- +More To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots Marek: Could this not just be a form of Rhaphidophora aureus? Tom -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of abri1973@wp.pl Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:29 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots I think 'Brasil' is not so new cultivar, I saw it in a magazine in 2002, here's the scanned photo: http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/philodendron/brasil.htm Marek Argent ----- Original Message ----- To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots The second one is a patented Philo called Brazil I believe. http://morningdewtropical.com/images/gallery/Philodendron-Brazil-10.jpg Harry Witmore Cloud Jungle Epiphytes www.cloudjungle.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Julius Boos Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:02 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] 'New' commercial aroids in pots Dear Friends, In my job I recently came across two new-to-me vining aroids grown and sold by commercial growers in S. W. Florida, and bought in quantity in hanging pots/baskets by a large hotel in the area. One has a dark, broadly cordate purplish-green leaf w/ cream spots, but what is most remarkable to me is the texture of the leaves, thick and almost rugose, which reminds me of something akin to Philo. rugosm! I`d like to grow it to adult size! The other has cordate leaves w/an attenuate point(long extended point or tip), the remarkable thing is a broadish lime-green stripe down the center of each regular-green leaf and down to the end of the long 'point' at each leaf`s end. Anyone (Denis, Ron, Scott??) have any idea on what genera these belong to?? Good Growing. Julius _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006 5:39 PM _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ NOD32 Informacje 1931 (20061220) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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